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January 01, 2018, 07:39:34 PMReply #100

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« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2018, 07:39:34 PM »
So guys do you think Rey and Poe will be a thing, or do you think it will be Rey and Kylo(if he is redeemed?)?

Poe and Kylo, surprise ending. Rey and the milk alien, i felt there was some chemistry there and now that milk alien is single since Luke is dead, Rey can hit that rebound. Finally Finn will confess his feelings for BB8 only to be shut down for a Porg.

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January 01, 2018, 11:31:32 PMReply #101

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« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2018, 11:31:32 PM »
Personally I think Kylo Ren is ten times more attractive in TLJ than in TFA, must have been the lighting.

I’m on the ship of Poe and Finn all the way, Luke’s force ghost X Han’s ashes, and Kylo X the Dark Side.

January 01, 2018, 11:35:23 PMReply #102

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« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2018, 11:35:23 PM »
I thought this would totally help spice things up.
also if you look you can see shampoo bottles and some stuff for a shower. Damn the FO must have good showers for big leaders.
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January 02, 2018, 04:48:41 AMReply #103

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« Reply #103 on: January 02, 2018, 04:48:41 AM »
I'm still waiting for the hot robot threesome between BB8, C3PO and R2D2.  Think of the beeps!

January 02, 2018, 11:53:06 AMReply #104

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« Reply #104 on: January 02, 2018, 11:53:06 AM »
Still a better love story than Twilight
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January 02, 2018, 01:12:37 PMReply #105

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« Reply #105 on: January 02, 2018, 01:12:37 PM »
And as to your earlier comment, i didn't arbitrarily pick plot points on Mary Sue Rey, never been off Jakku since borderline infancy/VERY early childhood, somehow speaks Wookie Jakku has a broad demographic; I get the impression being multilingual is quite common in the Star Wars galaxy (but Luke seemed to grow up in a more Human-dominated part of Tatooine), can fix the Falcon before Han She undid something her boss/owner added/changed, can FLY the Falcon all by herself when she's never even FLOWN before Just because it's not shown or stated outright doesn't mean she hasn't; we only had Luke's word that he'd flown before too, annihilates Ren by just sort of 'hmm Imma focus now on force stuff' therefore win I chalk this up to it being called "The Force Awakens", does a perfect mind trick with zero training Ditto, and for all your talk of Ren being on another level in this film it's not even remotely close to the truth the fact she has some basic self taught staff training and about a week with Luke and she's disarming the most powerful jedi Master in the galaxy I'm still going on my single watch here, but I was under the impression Luke disarmed her multiple times during their sparring until she summoned and lit the lightsaber?, ninja turtling Red guards and her 'struggles' are usually about 30 seconds of mild frustration followed by just getting it. A lot of which harks back to her upbringing on Jakku and unconventional rough and tumble moves rather than necessarily power or skill.
You have characters who routinely contradict the very establishment and development they went through in prior films like Luke contemplating murdering his sleeping nephew over something he hadn't even done, then running away to a nearly 20 odd year pity party without trying to fix anything I don't figure it being half that long (10 years at most?) and that seems to be a common trait for Jedi Masters anyway - Yoda after failing to defeat Palpatine, Obi-Wan after destroying (or so he thought) Anakin
leia NOT trying to find Luke in the Force in spite of their bond Who says she didn't? Luke cut himself off from the Force, Remember?, nor trying to bring her son back, Luke contemplating murder for possible darkside when he went through hell to try and redeem his dad because he sensed a little good Covered this one already, Han ditching Leia for nearly 20 years and Chewie being absolutely cool with it Again, I don't get the sense that it was nearly this long. Also that sort of thing doesn't seem a terribly unreasonable reaction, and is even consistent with how Han reacted after Chewie and Anakin's deaths in the old EU. Then you have build up with zero pay off, Snoke has no real point to the film for what he contributes plot wise He's the big bad boss who manipulates everything? What more do you need?, The First Order can bombard things from Space...but needs a laser battering ram They'd lost their super bombardment Dreadnought already, and the Rebel base on Crait had a shield like Hoth[color]
Added a few notes to the above quotes with my take on those things.


With Leia, actually have her die when she's blown out to space, this could have had so much impact on Kylo's character development and world view. his guilt, his being forced into this position all leading to his decision that he needs to double down and go deeper by ultimately usurping Snoke.
Have Kylo blame Snoke for his mother's death, and remind Snoke of his own philosophy of killing the past to make the future tht HE is part of the past now too before betraying him with Rey.
I actually thought Kylo got plenty of development with regards his parents.  After TFA where he killed his father in an attempt to settle the conflict inside him and turn fully to the Dark Side (Vader his idol, and wanting to please Snoke, his master), Kylo actually just finds himself more conflicted than ever.  When he senses his mother on the bridge of the Raddus he pauses, as if willing himself to pull the trigger.  And then, when he consciously chooses to not kill her, his wingmen fire and destroy the bridge.  As far as I can recall there's no moment later in the film where he learns that she's not dead, and maybe that moment (when he sees her supposed-death) plays into his decision to betray Snoke later on (if having decided not to kill her, he blames Snoke for her subsequent death).


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Still a better love story than Twilight
Which one? Rey/Kylo, Rey/Poe, or Finn/Rose?  The latter is most definitely worse than Twilight!
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« Reply #106 on: January 02, 2018, 02:06:29 PM »
No, any of them are better than Twilight.
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January 02, 2018, 02:58:33 PMReply #107

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« Reply #107 on: January 02, 2018, 02:58:33 PM »
No, any of them are better than Twilight.
To be honest though Salt and Pepper are a better love story than Twilight.
But yeah its Rey and Poe all the way man
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January 02, 2018, 10:38:31 PMReply #108

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« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2018, 10:38:31 PM »
Chewbacca and Darth Maul is a better love story than Twilight.
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January 03, 2018, 03:21:06 AMReply #109

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« Reply #109 on: January 03, 2018, 03:21:06 AM »
Chewbacca and Darth Maul is a better love story than Twilight.

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« Reply #110 on: January 03, 2018, 08:13:08 AM »
You should get paid for this, rofl.

Send it in, who's to say they won't make a SW movie about it?
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January 03, 2018, 10:29:53 AMReply #111

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« Reply #111 on: January 03, 2018, 10:29:53 AM »
Send it in, who's to say they won't make a SW movie about it?

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« Reply #112 on: January 03, 2018, 02:21:20 PM »
AHHh STOP
Lets just get back to the Last Jedi then.
Yeah Rey and Poe should be a thing, because she totally Friendzoned Kylo and since Finn now has his on girl.
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January 16, 2018, 01:57:53 PMReply #113

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« Reply #113 on: January 16, 2018, 01:57:53 PM »
Rian Johnson has given more detail about some of the decisions he made in The Last Jedi, including that they didn't actually change anything to account for Carrie's death. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 10 Revelations From Director Rian Johnson
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January 19, 2018, 04:15:08 AMReply #114

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« Reply #114 on: January 19, 2018, 04:15:08 AM »
I agree with the op on most things.  However, I think the whole Luke being a cry baby, scaredy cat, ruined his character that was built up from originally trilogy and then the books street the trilogy.

Luke was a bad as kid in ANH, not afraid to face Darth Vader. And in both the subsequent films her does face him lots. He is still in his early 20s at that point.  So why would a writer completely ignore this guy and instead create a kid that is scared of failure,  a kid that fears everything. A kid in a 50 year old man.

To me it was like the director had 1 kid (ben) and wanted a second kid to go against the kid so they made Luke into a child.

There were a lot of good scenes and was funny. I really enjoyed Chewie and the porgs.  When he collect up one and couldn't eat it lol

Tho I think the porgs are Star Wars version of the trebbles from Star Trek.

February 16, 2018, 10:45:26 PMReply #115

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« Reply #115 on: February 16, 2018, 10:45:26 PM »
This movie is easily my absolute favourite movie of all time and the only thing I didn't like about it was the casino part.

 

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