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Throughout the mod there's factions fighting each other that weren't fighting in canon, but that's because there's no way to do cross-faction diplomacy in Empire at War. So were the Hapans and New Republic directly in conflict? No. Neither were the Pentastar, Remnant, New Republic and Empire of the Hand for long periods during the mod's timeline, however there's no way to represent that within the mod.
why do u hate america? if it were not for us u guys would be lost. i mean we invented the tv, we invented the internet, cars and we even went to the planet moon. we won all the wars and we always help the little countries who cant fight and we give food to poor people.
Honestly there are several parts of this post I'm not sure I read properly, but I'll try to address it as I understand it:The other thing about the Vengeance, which I'm assuming is the SSD you're referring to, is that it was canonically Jerec's, and therefore canonically would be associated with the Pentastar Alignment.The Dark Jedi? You mean Jerec? Jerec's one of the most popular expanded universe dark jedi, he was a major figure on the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight game story line with Kyle Katarn. And as far as being "overpowered" that's definitely not true either. They start off with two SSDs, however they have virtually no other starting forces which everyone seems to completely overlook when complaining about how "overpowered" the Pentastar Alignment is. If they get shut down early, which is really easy to do, they're out of the game. If you let them snowball, they're going to become powerful just like any other faction.Where in the mod is Garm Bel-Iblis available in Era 1? He isn't in any of the era 1 GCs that I can remember, and in Art of War he doesn't spawn until era 2. I just double checked the code to make sure in case there was some kind of a mistake.As far as why Garm's faction isn't in the mod as a faction, it's because Peregrine's Nest is insignificant. It's the exact same reason the Reborn Empire isn't in the mod. We only have so many faction slots, so we're using them for major powers. The Pentastar Alignment was't just some small faction insignificant to the galaxy, it was one of the top three largest and most powerful factions to come out of the collapse of the Empire although it was "technically" neutral at its creation. The majority of the Reborn Emperor's forces outside of the core were likely from the Pentastar Alignment, and the core of the final Remnant emerging from Daala and Pellaeon was the Pentastar Alignment after reorganization.Bel-Iblis, on the other hand controlled basically one planet and had a navy of 6 dreadnaughts. That faction would end in the first week of gameplay. Comparing Bel-Iblis' movement to the Pentastar Alignment as far as how to represent major military and political powers in the timeperiod would be kind of like if you were to make a list of similar factions for WWII and bump out the United States or Soviet Union for Luxembourg (no offense to Luxembourg).If you're going to criticize us for how we implement the material, please at least look up the material before doing so.
Honestly there are several parts of this post I'm not sure I read properly, but I'll try to address it as I understand it:For one thing, I don't know how many times I've had to say this but Super Star Destroyers absolutely do not fit the EotH modus operandi. Thrawn hated superweapons and thought superships like the Executor were a waste of resources, so making an SSD for that faction would be the last thing we'd do. Also, the Pentastar Alignment existing didn't take a single thing away from the Empire of the Hand, and if we put all the development time that went into the PA into the Empire of the Hand we'd have a grand total of 0 new units for the Empire of the Hand out of it. I either have a suitable idea for an EotH unit, or I don't. It's that simple. And by suitable idea I don't mean "let's just throw more weapons onto another ship!", I mean there has to be some new utility to it, somewhere it can fit within their roster and era progression, and more importantly from the backend creation of it, a design, which tend to be really hard to think of.The other thing about the Vengeance, which I'm assuming is the SSD you're referring to, is that it was canonically Jerec's, and therefore canonically would be associated with the Pentastar Alignment.Art-wise, the only new assets we made specifically for the PA in this release was the TIE Hunter, and even that was made out of the basic mesh and skin I was using to make the TIE Fighter for Ascendancy anyways. The Praetor was already being done for the Remnant, the Escort Carrier, IFTX, LAAT, Munificent, Venator, etc were all pre-existing assets we had made ages ago for other purposes but which dovetailed with the PA.I'm not sure if you're talking about Thrawn or Kaine, but either way Empires at War is set in Era 1 so nobody is fighting Palpatine in that. Throughout the mod there's factions fighting each other that weren't fighting in canon, but that's because there's no way to do cross-faction diplomacy in Empire at War. So were the Hapans and New Republic directly in conflict? No. Neither were the Pentastar, Remnant, New Republic and Empire of the Hand for long periods during the mod's timeline, however there's no way to represent that within the mod.The Dark Jedi? You mean Jerec? Jerec's one of the most popular expanded universe dark jedi, he was a major figure on the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight game story line with Kyle Katarn. And as far as being "overpowered" that's definitely not true either. They start off with two SSDs, however they have virtually no other starting forces which everyone seems to completely overlook when complaining about how "overpowered" the Pentastar Alignment is. If they get shut down early, which is really easy to do, they're out of the game. If you let them snowball, they're going to become powerful just like any other faction.Where in the mod is Garm Bel-Iblis available in Era 1? He isn't in any of the era 1 GCs that I can remember, and in Art of War he doesn't spawn until era 2. I just double checked the code to make sure in case there was some kind of a mistake.As far as why Garm's faction isn't in the mod as a faction, it's because Peregrine's Nest is insignificant. It's the exact same reason the Reborn Empire isn't in the mod. We only have so many faction slots, so we're using them for major powers. The Pentastar Alignment was't just some small faction insignificant to the galaxy, it was one of the top three largest and most powerful factions to come out of the collapse of the Empire although it was "technically" neutral at its creation. The majority of the Reborn Emperor's forces outside of the core were likely from the Pentastar Alignment, and the core of the final Remnant emerging from Daala and Pellaeon was the Pentastar Alignment after reorganization.Bel-Iblis, on the other hand controlled basically one planet and had a navy of 6 dreadnaughts. That faction would end in the first week of gameplay. Comparing Bel-Iblis' movement to the Pentastar Alignment as far as how to represent major military and political powers in the timeperiod would be kind of like if you were to make a list of similar factions for WWII and bump out the United States or Soviet Union for Luxembourg (no offense to Luxembourg).If you're going to criticize us for how we implement the material, please at least look up the material before doing so.
i must say my apologies i had never heard of him or the penstar alliance at all but i do still think they are over powered..
and thrawn thought death sars where a waste of time and money i dont belive he thought a ssd was a waste
i just think you should have done more for eoth like a ground based wepon would be nice since or maybe some golans to put in the air would be great to you have one type of air
but i think eoth is still lacking in capital ships all others have them
(one again i could be wrong) and he starts off with more than just 2 ssds
as for jerec i have been a fan of sw for years read most not all the books and never thought him to be not even popular but once again differences of thoughts i think
The PA has new ships, but they are insignificant as they are not capital ships. Why would Thrawn spend tons Of resources to build a floating blob of super-sized triangles when he can destroy one with minamal effort? Ysane Isard was he stupid one, she thought launching a virus on a planet would help, but at the end she failed, and was not able to keep her prisoners both after and before. Wedge remarked in the Bacta War that Corran made it out so easily that it made Kessel look like a resort. Isard wasted so much resources that could have been used by Thrawn to utterly destroy the NR's floating blobs of wired shapes. Palpatine failed dearly, right start from killing Darth Plageuis too early. Daala used brute force-Again a wage of resources. Palleon worked fine with diplomacy. You realise how majority of the IR leaders thought that by simply enlarging their triangles, they would win? Thrawn was the only one capable of waging war, tactically and economically. Apparently most of them thought that the resources were as infinite as from 19BBY-4ABY.The EoTH were largely based on Chiss tech, which showed no evidence of gigantic ships, but rather much superior tech and strategy.
it also means I have the WORST time actually COMPLETING any GC's with them before the freeze.