Last Person to Post Wins

[Slornie]

Corey posted white I was writing this (previous page), but I'm going to add my thoughts anyway. 

Fouth, I'm okay with cutting federal funding for abortions, because a lot of people don't want their tax money going to abortions due to not agreeing with it. You can't just say "you aren't allowed to use this money for abortions" because you can't check to see if they actually listened.

That's a very slippery slope though. If you cut federal funding in one area because one part of society don't agree with it then why not do the same in other areas?  Some people don't think children should receive vaccinations - do you ban all federal funds from organisations that do any form of vaccinations?

If you come into the country illegally you are committing multiple crimes. The most big and most fucking annoying is tax evasion. These people don't have to pay taxes when I have to God Damn taxes. And yes if they give birth to a kid here yes he is a American citizen but that is no excuse to avoid taxes. And What makes it worse is when they have kids they can apply to get welfare which WE have to pay for which is a problem. Not Mention they take jobs people who came in the right and fair way should have.

Catch 22. They can't pay taxes because they are illegally in the country, and they can't become legal residents because there isn't a way to achieve that.  If they could become legal residents and pay taxes I'm sure most would be perfectly happy to do so.

With regards taking jobs from other legal residents presumably most illegal workers are employed on a casual or seasonal basis with no job security and paid cash in hand for the minimum the employer can get away with.  If those illegal workers weren't around would a] legal workers be willing to take on those roles for the same minimal pay and no job security, or b] the employer be willing to pay more to attract legal workers?  Either of which would have a corresponding impact on either the availability or price of the end product/service to business/consumers.

The Other problem is the way Islam treats other religions and other "ethic groups/minorities". Islam is oppressive of women and LGBT people. I don't think all Muslims are like this but the ones form that region are much more prone to this way.

Now when it comes to Abortions this is my belief.
Abortions when it comes to rape and the safety of a mother's life is just fine.
But Abortions should not be use as a birth control. Btw I'm a Roman Catholic so I believe this is wrong since in our beliefs it is the taking of a innocent life who has the right to live.

Now I've quoted these two parts together deliberately.  Christianity, and in some cases the Roman Catholic church particularly, is not and has not always been accommodating to other religions (crusades) or a friend to women or minorities like the LGBT community.

To you abortion is the taking of a life, to others the attempts to ban or deny access to the option of abortion is an oppression of women and their rights to control what happens to their body.  It can be argued both ways but banning or defunding abortions on the basis of religious doctrine isn't really a good enough reason - particularly since the US constitution prevents the establishment of a state religion (although that bit seems to be ignored pretty much everywhere - "in God we trust", "so help me God" etc).

[Illidan Stormrage]

There's shitty people everywhere.

I took this line and want to make one point about it. Your Right

We live in a World of shitty people.
Sometimes I just wish My Fucking Country could just come together and work with each other.
It really sucks I hear news reports on the same shit.
BREAKING NEWS TRUMP SAID THIS BAD THING OR IS BLASTING THE MEDIA

*sigh*


I've finally come to the idea that 4 things are at fault here.
Trump: I don't need to repeat what everyone says.
The Media: They always add fuel to fire
Us: we voted for him
the republican party: They didn't take him seriously

[Helix345]

That's a very slippery slope though. If you cut federal funding in one area because one part of society don't agree with it then why not do the same in other areas?  Some people don't think children should receive vaccinations - do you ban all federal funds from organisations that do any form of vaccinations?

To say childeren shouldn't recieve something that is proven to prevent them from contracting deadly diseases is fundamentally different than saying that I don't want to pay for Martha's abortion because she decided Steve didn't need a condom. One is preventing otherwise unpreventable deaths in a scientifically proven manner while the other is supporting people who have decided to waste my tax money. Honestly, I would be really happy if the government combed through all of the hotly debated topics and just said "we aren't gonna deal with this shit", or better yet if they realized that a lot of these programs are actually privileges (like welfare) and that they can add rules with the consequence of simply taking away the privilige if people decide to abuse it. But I know that will never happen because the American government either goes all in or not at all.
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With recreational I'd agree (and they do), but not with work-related travel. If that were the case, it would ensure only the incredibly rich could become president. The primary costs come from security details and the like, which are probably necessary considering the political climate, can total millions of dollars over a term. What they shouldn't be allowed to do is insist on living and travel arrangements that are pointlessly expensive.

Before we go and I quit as well, the problem is this. As explained by my student government teacher in high school, you go on vacation to Hawaii with some coworkers. You go golfing with said coworkers in Hawaii. You make a few passing statements about a problem that you are supposed to be addressing. This is now considered work-related travel and is reimbursed in full by the government with tax payer money.

[Lord Xizer]

I like his military picks as when in a war having people with both experience and more investment in the end goal over political popularity but agree with little else.
The wall and deportations are absolutely wasteful. Make them citizens, make entry easier and you can tax them as citizens rather than wasting millions deporting them and trying to enforce the border. The travel ban is also meaningless. I do not like him as a person or as a candidate but not everything he's done has been a mistake. Bannon appointment however sickens me

[Revanchist]

Not trying to derail the conversation (ok, who am I kidding, completely trying to change the subject), for anyone who missed it here's the photo of the main cast for the Han Solo movie.

Apparently JJ Abrams says the script is fantastic. That does not inspire confidence.

[kucsidave]

Oh god. Jar Jar approves
I'm scared.

[Revanchist]

Well the folks that did the LEGO Movie are the ones that are doing the film, and that was a surprisingly decent movie IMO. Have to wait and see. Woody Harrison is going to be playing Garris Shrike, so that's interesting.

[Slornie]

Not trying to derail the conversation (ok, who am I kidding, completely trying to change the subject), for anyone who missed it here's the photo of the main cast for the Han Solo movie.

Presumably they're using the same Falcon sets as built for The Force Awakens - I wonder how much set dressing and other tweaking they've had to do to show the ship is 50 years younger!

Well the folks that did the LEGO Movie are the ones that are doing the film, and that was a surprisingly decent movie IMO.

So everything is Awesome, then? 

[kucsidave]

OMG WHYYYYYY!?!?!?!?
You reminded me of that song. WHY?
This was cruel. now it will plague my mind for a week again...

[Revanchist]

OMG WHYYYYYY!?!?!?!?
You reminded me of that song. WHY?
This was cruel. now it will plague my mind for a week again...

Just for you:

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I still find it equal parts cool, amusing, and ridiculous that once again, despite claims of wanting to take a new direction with the franchise, they go and bring in a Legends character. And an obscure one at that.

[Helix345]

I actually liked that song

[Lord Xizer]

Well so long as we're doing catchy songs from cartoons...

[DarthRevansRevenge]

OMG WHYYYYYY!?!?!?!?
You reminded me of that song. WHY?
This was cruel. now it will plague my mind for a week again...

i actually didn't mind the song. it was "Let it go" from Frozen and "Pizza Angel" from Veggie tales, among others, that are aggravating to me

[kucsidave]

I actually liked that song

i actually didn't mind the song. it was "Let it go" from Frozen and "Pizza Angel" from Veggie tales, among others, that are aggravating to me

I never said I didn't like the song
Just said WHYYYY?!?!?

[DarthRevansRevenge]

well, there are worse songs to be stuck in your head. look up, Here Fluffy and you will see what i mean

[kucsidave]

if that would be a really bad but catchy song, lucky me, I don't know it.

[Revanchist]

Nor do I. I should probably be glad.

[kucsidave]

Nor do I. I should probably be glad.

Amen to that

[DarthRevansRevenge]

agreed

[kucsidave]

OMG the company I work for considers a May the 4th star wars themed discount 
The world is full of nerds lol