Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => Star Wars Discussion => Topic started by: JC123 on January 25, 2013, 07:24:03 PM
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Does anyone think that Abrams will find his own timeline similar to how he used time travel to make an independent timeline for the Star Trek "reboot"?
Does anyone think giving both Trek and Wars to one man is too much power?
What other thoughts do you have over Abram's reported control over the new Star Wars films?
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I cried. I think he's going to wreck it just like he did my beloved trek (aka, the reboot, although I do admit I like the story, it sucks insofar as completely eliminating everything we knew, and makes it so they'll redesign the Excelsior class, BASTARDS!!!).
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I cried. I think he's going to wreck it just like he did my beloved trek (aka, the reboot, although I do admit I like the story, it sucks insofar as completely eliminating everything we knew, and makes it so they'll redesign the Excelsior class, BASTARDS!!!).
Torn between enjoying the remake but also loving the decades of story that was dumped in the pursuit of a reboot. I can see myself feeling this way in a few years.
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I don't care about the story, just about the Excelsior class. That and the Ambassador are my favorite 2 classes in Trekdom.
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Does anyone think that Abrams will find his own timeline similar to how he used time travel to make an independent timeline for the Star Trek "reboot"?
Unlikely. I don't think Lucas has relinquished that much control. Although it would be nice if Abrams could go and delete the prequels..
Does anyone think giving both Trek and Wars to one man is too much power?
Why? They are pretty distinct from one another, and I can't see the powers-that-be letting Abrams screw things up for either franchise.
What other thoughts do you have over Abram's reported control over the new Star Wars films?
As I have posted on Trekmovie, Facebook and in the staff Skype chat:
How about a Trek/Wars crossover movie?
Two years after the events of Into Darkness, the crew of the Enterprise are pulled into a wormhole and are dragged back in time to A Galaxy Far Far Away, where ships are much bigger and there are lots of people running around with glow sticks.
Would be awesome, no? :P
More generally, one thing is for sure with Abrams at the helm. We aren't going to find out anything until about six months before the film is released. Maybe confirmation of actors signed, but no character or plot details, no title.
I think he's going to wreck it just like he did my beloved trek (aka, the reboot, although I do admit I like the story, it sucks insofar as completely eliminating everything we knew
Actually, it didn't eliminate everything. Just sidestepped it. The way they pulled Spock through the singularity from years after the end of the previous canon was brilliant. I'm just as fond of the new Trek as the classic, and would be more than happy to see Abrams and crew do a third film (although that will probably have to wait until after SW-VII).
I also like how they've taken a more Star Wars-like approach to an expanded universe, with the new-Trek comics and upcoming video game being overseen by the same minds as the new films. There's also the chance that after the success of Abrams' films CBS will take the plunge on a new Trek TV show set in the new universe. Again, as I said on Trekmovie.com:
Slornie - April 21, 2012
You know what, i think there may be opportunity for Star Trek to return after JJ?s trilogy is finished (assuming it gets that far, maybe 2018?). Enterprise is still valid canon in this new alternate universe (based on the happened-before-Nero-incursion theory), but anything future-wise is new.
Assuming the alternate universe matches the general flow of the original, why not take the USS Enterprise C (or -B if -A never happened in this timeline) under Captain Rachel Garret? After recently watching Voyager, i feel another leading female captain would be a nice change and show off the egalitarian nature of the Federation. It also avoids the sensitivity of ?remaking? another cherished crew (e.g TNG).
Set some 60 years after TOS (prime and alternate) and 40 before TNG (prime) it would make for an interesting foray into the ?new? Federation. How things have evolved with the loss of Vulcan (maybe peace with the Romulans instead of the Klingons?), maybe the Borg arrived early?
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They aren't using the books or any EU so they can all go to the seventh Corellian hell.
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They aren't using the books or any EU so they can all go to the seventh Corellian hell.
Hi, I'm Thrawnsy from planet Glubbox. I'm the campy imperial commander who gets taken down be a small band of children jedi that must learn to overcome their differences and work together!
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Yep, the future is bleak.
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Hi, I'm Thrawnsy from planet Glubbox. I'm the campy imperial commander who gets taken down be a small band of children jedi that must learn to overcome their differences and work together!
(http://www.creatingacomic.com/images/darth_vader_nooo.jpg)
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Better yet...
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
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Better yet...
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
Our focus groups here at Disney have decided that Darth Vader and the Emperor are just too dark for our intended audience. Our current goal is to have a more power-ranger bad-guy that huffs and puffs. This will allow us to easily change the medium to the animated Star Wars that has been our goal all along. We are sure the fans will appreciate the new animated original characters in 3D while we stomp out any and all fan parodies because that violates our precious copyrights. Enjoy!
Alright, I'll stop now.
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Sigh...we'll just have to wait and see. Maybe Abrams is actually using the EU and setting it after FotJ, but we don't know yet because hey, we are talking about the master of secrets here.
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One can only hope the true EU is used...
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One can only hope the true EU is used...
Indeed
EDIT: just found this, hope Abrams (and the idiots in charge of TCW, and all Lucasfilms, for that matter) watch this and learn what it takes to make a good movie/TV series. Watch this and tell me you would not like to see a real Star Wars movie like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHdoXYg3-0g&NR=1&feature=endscreen
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That was great! A bit unrealistic (TIE bombers taking out several fighters) but it was good to see empire beating those abominable rebels.
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That was great! A bit unrealistic (TIE bombers taking out several fighters) but it was good to see empire beating those abominable rebels.
Well, the bomber was armed with cluster homing missiles, so...
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Perhaps we could get Disney to do a sing along with the Vong?
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You can sing along Kids! Follow the bouncing worldship.
Perhaps we could get Disney to do a sing along with the Vong?
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Perhaps we could get Disney to do a sing along with the Vong?
I would totally buy that: "You cut Your right ear off, You cut your fourth finger off, you mutilate yourself and you scream in agony." Good up building song for today's youth :o
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villain songs are fabulous
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Shimrra and Onimi will have a duet.
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Abrams + Disney + Star Wars
i won't say it's the worst combination, because it could have been way more worse
(for example: Uwe Boll + some unknown Production Studio)
But concerning how the new Star Trek totally wrecked the Star Trek timeline:
one can only hope, that he won't do the same think with the Star Wars franchise.
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So Lucas "leaked" that all the original cast members will return for the next movie. Thoughts?
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I hope they won't die of old Age on the set.
Well at least there will be some consistency
let's see what will happen.
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I'm just hoping they just be the charecters that they were (Mark hamill being Luke skywalker). I also heard that Samuel J Jackson (Mace Windu) is going to be in it and i can't think what he is going to be.
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I'm just hoping they just be the charecters that they were (Mark hamill being Luke skywalker). I also heard that Samuel J Jackson (Mace Windu) is going to be in it and i can't think what he is going to be.
I got a few suggestions:
First. Reincarnation of Mace Windu
2nd: Ghost of Mace Windu
3rd: Nick Fury!
;D
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If they are in the new trilogy, I would like to see Luke go out in a scene similar to Obi-Wan - sacrifice for the next generation - and then Han and Leia should go out with a bang in the Falcon (with the reverse of the "I love you" "I know" line from ESB).
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I wonder why Lucas leaked that, when Abrams is the man of secrets. Maybe Disney decided to not play with Lucas's ideas and stick to their own, so Lucas is trying to get revenge by leaking this. Maybe this means it will follow the EU after all.
What I think they should do is have it set after FotJ: Jaina and Jag are married, and they have begun the reformation of the Empire. Their most recent decision was to institute an organization of Force users loyal to the Empire--the Imperial Knights. After the Sith occupation of Coruscant, the GA has begun to fall apart, wih many systems rejoining the Imperial Remnant because they fear the GA can no longer protect them. Fearing that they may lose power, the member worlds of the GA declare war against the rising Imperial Remnant and ally themselves with rogue Imperial Commander Daala. Unbeknownst to the GA, however, Daala is working with the Lost Tribe of the Sith. Their plan: destabilize the balance of power and conquer. The Jedi must now choose whether to fight for the government hat they swore to protect or fight for what is right.
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I wonder why Lucas leaked that, when Abrams is the man of secrets. Maybe Disney decided to not play with Lucas's ideas and stick to their own, so Lucas is trying to get revenge by leaking this. Maybe this means it will follow the EU after all.
What I think they should do is have it set after FotJ: Jaina and Jag are married, and they have begun the reformation of the Empire. Their most recent decision was to institute an organization of Force users loyal to the Empire--the Imperial Knights. After the Sith occupation of Coruscant, the GA has begun to fall apart, wih many systems rejoining the Imperial Remnant because they fear the GA can no longer protect them. Fearing that they may lose power, the member worlds of the GA declare war against the rising Imperial Remnant and ally themselves with rogue Imperial Commander Daala. Unbeknownst to the GA, however, Daala is working with the Lost Tribe of the Sith. Their plan: destabilize the balance of power and conquer. The Jedi must now choose whether to fight for the government hat they swore to protect or fight for what is right.
That could easily make a trilogy. There's even plenty of room for a good story line with lots of side stories and the obligatory fights. So much potential for interesting fights. I'd go with it.
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I know it will never be made, but I'd love to see a movie chronicling Soontir Fel transforming the 18worst to the feared 181st.
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I wonder why Lucas leaked that, when Abrams is the man of secrets. Maybe Disney decided to not play with Lucas's ideas and stick to their own, so Lucas is trying to get revenge by leaking this. Maybe this means it will follow the EU after all.
What I think they should do is have it set after FotJ: Jaina and Jag are married, and they have begun the reformation of the Empire. Their most recent decision was to institute an organization of Force users loyal to the Empire--the Imperial Knights. After the Sith occupation of Coruscant, the GA has begun to fall apart, wih many systems rejoining the Imperial Remnant because they fear the GA can no longer protect them. Fearing that they may lose power, the member worlds of the GA declare war against the rising Imperial Remnant and ally themselves with rogue Imperial Commander Daala. Unbeknownst to the GA, however, Daala is working with the Lost Tribe of the Sith. Their plan: destabilize the balance of power and conquer. The Jedi must now choose whether to fight for the government hat they swore to protect or fight for what is right.
Send that Idea to Disney, perhaps they will buy it ^^
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If anyone wants to send it to Disney, be my guest!
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Alright, so Guderian's post above gave me an idea. On Star Wars day, anyone who likes my plot and who wants to save the EU get themselves and all their friends to each write a letter to Disney/Lucasfilms (I'll need some help to find where to send it to) telling them not to disregard the EU and give them my idea (or if you can think of a better one be my guest) for the new trilogy plot. Maybe if enough people protest like this, Disney will see that it is in their monetary best interests to not throw away the EU. If enough people think this is a good idea I'll post a separate thread for sign ups and a revised plot/any plot ideas you might have.
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in addition to that, or as an alternative you could start an online petition.
They do spread around quit fast if enough people send it to their friends.
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in addition to that, or as an alternative you could start an online petition.
They do spread around quit fast if enough people send it to their friends.
Could you start said petition? If you could that would be awesome.
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Never tried to, so i have absolutly no idea where to start ???
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Never tried to, so i have absolutly no idea where to start ???
Same here, I thought you might have known. :p
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I'm pretty sure Disney have already said the new films wont be adaptations of EU books.
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Disney lies (hopefully). Anyway, just because they aren't adaptations of EU books doesn't mean the story has to ignore the EU. It can be a new story set after the current EU series (meaning FotJ).
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That video was great. More like that need to be made!
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Im kind of torn between saying hell do a good job or a bad one. Judging by Into Darkness, which was pretty good imo, I think hell do a good job. Allot better one then lucas did anyway with the prequels................ :'(
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Im kind of torn between saying hell do a good job or a bad one. Judging by Into Darkness, which was pretty good imo, I think hell do a good job. Allot better one then lucas did anyway with the prequels................ :'(
Your thoughts mirror mine. I was impressed by the latest Trek movie and, sorry Lucas, but Abrams would have to try to do worse than you.
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I just hope that this movie wont contradict any major events from the eu, and the only thing I truly worry about is the lens flare, but I don't know if Abrams got better about that, as I have only seen star trek 09 not the new one.
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Torn between enjoying the remake but also loving the decades of story that was dumped in the pursuit of a reboot. I can see myself feeling this way in a few years.
I think the original trek was just plain horrendous...
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I just hope that this movie wont contradict any major events from the eu, and the only thing I truly worry about is the lens flare, but I don't know if Abrams got better about that, as I have only seen star trek 09 not the new one.
It almost undoubtedly will, but that's probably a good thing since it gives them more freedom to make a good story the way they see fit. Plus, I personally think a lot of the EU is not really worth saving...
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It almost undoubtedly will, but that's probably a good thing since it gives them more freedom to make a good story the way they see fit. Plus, I personally think a lot of the EU is not really worth saving...
A lot of the EU is "HOW WILL LUKE AND THE JEDI SAVE THE GALAXY TODAY?!" Kind of annoying.
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A lot of the EU is "HOW WILL LUKE AND THE JEDI SAVE THE GALAXY TODAY?!" Kind of annoying.
OH LOOK ANOTHER SITH LORD AND ITS EMPIRE VS REPUBLIC AGAIN!
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Yes, I am necroing this thread, but for good reason. Search for Stranger Bad Robot and look up the YouTube video. Apparently this is a teaser for one of Abrams' new projects. What sayith thou? Is this some Abramsian allusion to Star Wars, or not?
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I'm VERY iffy on the future of SWs. Sigh it's terrible to go into book stores and KNOW beyond a shadow of doubt that I've seen the best of SW EU and the well has dried up, same with the movies.
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I'm VERY iffy on the future of SWs. Sigh it's terrible to go into book stores and KNOW beyond a shadow of doubt that I've seen the best of SW EU and the well has dried up, same with the movies.
This will either be a culling of anything good left to the SW universe or a rebirth. Kinda hard to say until I hesitantly go into the theater as the fateful day approaches. At least he has low expectations in his favor.
Edit: I can't make heads or tails about the trailer. Absolutely no idea. Begins at the water ends at the water? That doesn't sound like SW at all.
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Perhaps it's a movie about Mon Calamari?