Obama (please read this thread before assumptions of this thread)

[vadereclipse]

in my o[pinion, it's more to do with nationalistic purposes than pure anti-west terrorism. once the troops leave, the terrorism should cool down a little, although likely not completely. iraq is an absolute warzone between sunni and shia muslims.

[siegfried1]

It was a bad idea to even enter that area.
We could have easily taken down Sadam, and then left a small force to train the Iraqis.

[vadereclipse]

the job should have been finished 1st time round, but this is about obama.

[siegfried1]

Yeah, go OBAMA!!!!! and to a smaller extent anybody but McCain!!!!

[vadereclipse]

go obama.
as long as that bitch palin doesn't get in any power.

[Delta 07]

my opinion on iraq is that if we dont give the iraqis all their training before we leave, iraq is going to end up as a terrorist ran country again, we could have another 9-11 and we would have to go back in to iraq again. that would look pretty stupid.

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

Please don't let this topic become a mindless bashing zone for senseless comments. It is about Obama. Go bash any conservative you can somewhere else.

[Dr. Knickers]

Pulling out of Iraq before it completely stabilizes is a bad idea. Country would have a civil war between Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds. They would probably split Iraq into different regions for each group, disrupting the flow of oil from Iraq and negatively impacting the global economy.

[Slornie]

my opinion on iraq is that if we dont give the iraqis all their training before we leave, iraq is going to end up as a terrorist ran country again, we could have another 9-11 and we would have to go back in to iraq again. that would look pretty stupid.

The invasion of Iraq was to do with the supposed WMD's that Saddam (a ruthless dictator, not a terrorist) supposedly had, which could supposedly hit the US/Western Europe.  Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 whatsoever, i think you're getting it confused with Afghanistan.

Please don't let this topic become a mindless bashing zone for senseless comments. It is about Obama. Go bash any conservative you can somewhere else.

So you think this thread should return to discussing a biased video bashing the Democratic Presidential Candidate?  Personally, i'd rather it remained a general debate about the merits of the two main Presidential Candidates, and their respective policies (i know we had a similar thread in the past, but that was for the primary season).

[strike23]

i originally supported mcCain but recently with his choosing Palin as his VP and his leaving moderate positions for more conservative ones i dont trust him anymore. I agree with obama's energy policy and getting out of iraq but idk how effective his economic policy will be. McCain's foreign policy scares me because he sees the US as better than anyone else. Running a country this way is dangerous, its why people hate the US and that is y terrorists like to attack us. McCain has recently stooped to spreading false rumors to try and hurt obama's campaign which lost any respect i had for him. I believe that if mcCain becomes president, we will end up will at least another 4 years of something like bush.

[siegfried1]

That's it!!!!  Good man!  That is what i've been saying to everyone, but to hear it from someone else is awesome

[Kalo]

I'd rather have a god damn Milf (Palin) in Office than Obama.

I think (And hope) Obama will get shot if/when he's elected.

[Slornie]

Well, even if Obama was shot, you'd still have someone with experience in charge of the country.  Thats more than can be said of the Republican ticket.

Off topic, i love this Russell Brand quote from the MTV Music Awards:

Some people, I think they're called racists, say America is not ready for a black president. But, I know America to be a forward-thinking country, right, because otherwise, you know, would you have let that retarded cowboy fella be president for eight years? We were very impressed. We thought it was nice of you to let him have a go, because, in England, he wouldn't be trusted with a pair of scissors.

[Delta 07]

Is Russel Brand a freakin cereal company because russel sounds like a cereal my grandpa eats. jk i know who he is and is a fagget because all the british are because they r gun control freaks. go NRA(if obama becomes president maybe they will hire some top assasin to take out the president,vp and speaker of the house. that would be great)

[Slornie]

Is Russel Brand a freakin cereal company because russel sounds like a cereal my grandpa eats. jk i know who he is and is a fagget because all the british are because they r gun control freaks. go NRA(if obama becomes president maybe they will hire some top assasin to take out the president,vp and speaker of the house. that would be great)

I'll try to not take offence to your post..

I could just as easily say that "all americans are idiots because they love guns." Or "america is an evil country for promoting war, maybe the UN will impose sanctions on them for crimes against humanity?"

[vadereclipse]

I'd rather have a god damn Milf (Palin) in Office than Obama.

I think (And hope) Obama will get shot if/when he's elected.

hmm... so you'd rather biden than obama if democrats get in?

can you merge posts?

[vadereclipse]

Is Russel Brand a freakin cereal company because russel sounds like a cereal my grandpa eats. jk i know who he is and is a fagget because all the british are because they r gun control freaks. go NRA(if obama becomes president maybe they will hire some top assasin to take out the president,vp and speaker of the house. that would be great)

STFU.
don't call all the british faggots.
we don't need guns. you CAN get a gun for hunting if you want, but it's really not needed to have a gun. it doesn't make us faggots. saying having a gun makes you awesome really shows how insecure you are.
russell brand's a faggOt because all british are? where the fuck would the USA be without the British? we colonised you, and gave you a foothold. maybe, just maybe, Russell brand's campness is an act? just maybe?

go play with all your "awesome" republicans like David Duke. we don't want bigots here.
negrep for your ignorance and xenophobia.

[siegfried1]

Hey hey hey, the british aren't faggots.  They certainly have moral superiority to the US, even with all the atrocities they commited over the years.  I mean, they came up with Concentration Camps!  Then the Germans (the best race in my opinion) did it better.  Then Americans came up with how to commit Genocide on an entire Native people.  Then the Germans did it on a smaller scale.  Anyway, i kinda got off topic, but you're an idiot if you call the BRITISH faggots.

[vadereclipse]

if the british are faggots, you are second generation faggots. You'd be NOWHERE without us.
we're not faggots.
there's a reason the UK doesn't have so many school shootings. we don't have guns to the same extent.
the UK has 1/5 the population of the USA, yet we definitely don't have 1/5 the number of school shootings. this is because the UK has gun control. there is knife crime, and the occasional gun crime, but that is different. in the USA, people like delta feel naked without a gun. this is quite honestly, pathetic.

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

Yes, but I will say that your not the nation you once were. I'll argue against the greatness of Russia (because of size and cheap US knockoffs) or China (because of population and hard-working-ness, trust me I know alot of Americans are bums). But the chance of most powerful nation for Great Britain is non-existent.

Anyways back to topic. Barrack Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden.