Author Topic: (SPLIT) from sith empire discussion, Luke Skywalker (Read 54509 times)

Corey · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2008, 11:19:00 PM »

By people he later went back and beat the shit out of.

Meyer · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2008, 12:35:59 AM »

Quote from: Isamu on March 06, 2008, 07:19:42 PM

yea but thats a prophecy being fullfilled so there was really no option of luke or the emperor losing

Luke has no part on the prophecy. He only acts as an catalyst for Anakin to redeem himself and kill Emperor. the prophecy refers to Anakin Skywalker. Who, in my mind, is more powerful than Luke. And if someone wants to argue about wheter the prophecy is about Anakin or Luke, it's said by George Lucas himself that it is about Anakin.

Isamu · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2008, 01:36:53 AM »

luke is what the jedi thought anakin skywalker was. he brought balance back to the light after vader turned it to the dark.

Meyer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2008, 06:04:04 AM »

Luke wasn't even near that strong in the force as Anakin was before he was forced in the suit. Anakin lost much of his power in Mustafar.

Slornie · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2008, 08:38:53 AM »

No, Luke and Leia have exactly the same amount of Force potential as Anakin had, as his direct descendants (this is why Palpatine was so scared when he found out about Luke, because he knew how much of a threat he was). And, as the canon has progressed, Luke has fulfilled much of that potential, he is far more knowledgeable of the Force, has more skill with a lightsaber, and has control over more complex and powerful Force powers.

Meyer · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2008, 09:06:04 AM »

But Anakin was created by using the force. Luke and Leia weren't. So they won't as powerful as Anakin could have been. But still Leia and Luke have massive amount of force powers. but not as much as Anakin.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2008, 11:18:06 AM »

Luke also studied for a longer period of time than Anakin, since Luke spent his entire adult life learning new techniques, while Anakin, by your own statement, lost most of his power at Mustafar.

Meyer · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2008, 12:09:37 PM »

yes. but before that he was much more powerful than Luke.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2008, 01:31:24 PM »

If he was so much more powerful, howd he get his ass whooped by Kenobi?

Isamu · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2008, 01:37:29 PM »

because kenobi had expierence that vader didn't have.

Meyer · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2008, 01:38:31 PM »

he didn't focus. he was so vengeful because he though that all had betrayed him. therefore he didn't fight his best. and yes Kenobi had experience and was one of the finest swordsman in the order.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2008, 03:02:16 PM »

Did you watch the duel? That was the most fast-past, grueling duel in the movies. They fought better in that duel than any other fight-scene they had. And, as I said, Anakin had only been studying combat for about 10 years, Luke has been for the past 40.

Slornie · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2008, 03:16:32 PM »

Quote from: Meyer on March 07, 2008, 01:38:31 PM

he didn't focus. he was so vengeful because he though that all had betrayed him. therefore he didn't fight his best. and yes Kenobi had experience and was one of the finest swordsman in the order.

I thought all the hate and such was supposed to make a Sith stronger (and thats what he was by that stage)?

vadereclipse · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2008, 03:24:03 PM »

if i remember right, anakin got cocky. at the time when obi wan beat anakin, anakin was doing that leap to defy the jedi council, who said that the advantage was in the higher ground or something. in the end, the higher ground is what defeated him.

Meyer · « **Reply #34 on:** March 07, 2008, 04:25:55 PM »

exactly my point.

Isamu · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2008, 09:56:25 PM »

vader had the dark side kenobi had expierence.

Razgriz · « **Reply #36 on:** March 09, 2008, 10:20:23 AM »

I just want to say Luke Skywalker is definatly not the most powerful Jedi of All time it may not be Darth Revan but there were more Sith and Jedi alot More Powerful then him.
I mean we can just look at the use of the explosive force powers back then in ancient times. Compare Force Storm to Force Lighting, Force Plague, Drain Life. These powers were never used in the current era

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #37 on:** March 09, 2008, 10:29:01 AM »

Force storm IS force lightning in a larger radius. For all we know, Palpatine could have been taking the power required for storm and concentrating it into a smaller radius, making it even more damaging.
In which case, Luke should be applauded for withstanding such an extended attack.

Slornie · « **Reply #38 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:06:49 PM »

Quote from: Razgriz on March 09, 2008, 10:20:23 AM

I mean we can just look at the use of the explosive force powers back then in ancient times. Compare Force Storm to Force Lighting, Force Plague, Drain Life. These powers were never used in the current era

Just because certain Force powers werent used in more recent times doesnt mean that the Force users are weaker - It could be that the knowledge of those techniques have been lost, or that the Force user chooses not to use them. I mean, i cant see Luke using Force Storm, Force Plague or Drain Life..

Meyer · « **Reply #39 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:37:25 PM »

yeah. and how about that force "bring back from death" used in the legacy era? that much require much force power and there is no mention of it in the age of old republic. at least as far as I know.