Author Topic: (SPLIT) from sith empire discussion, Luke Skywalker (Read 54502 times)

Isamu · « **Reply #40 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:50:17 PM »

losing knowledge of power is what makes the jedi and sith of the current era weaker than that of the old republic.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 09, 2008, 01:16:40 PM »

Not knowing how to do something doesnt make you weak.

And I don't care what your opinion is, Luke IS the most powerful jedi, otherwise you find me someplace that says otherwise.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #42 on:** March 09, 2008, 02:31:48 PM »

isamu, lost knowledge can be rediscovered and throughout star wars, it can. take rare abilities. some jedi would have to learn from themselves, not to mention the people who originally discovered abilities. if it happened then, it can happen later.

Isamu · « **Reply #43 on:** March 09, 2008, 03:32:43 PM »

Quote from: Slornie on March 07, 2008, 03:16:32 PM

Quote from: Meyer on March 07, 2008, 01:38:31 PM
he didn't focus. he was so vengeful because he though that all had betrayed him. therefore he didn't fight his best. and yes Kenobi had experience and was one of the finest swordsman in the order.
I thought all the hate and such was supposed to make a Sith stronger (and thats what he was by that stage)?

this is all true

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #44 on:** March 09, 2008, 08:18:59 PM »

So, you say that by being vengeful and hating, Anakin was more powerful and stronger, but was blinded by this hatred, negating it's affect?

Isamu · « **Reply #45 on:** March 09, 2008, 11:27:10 PM »

pure rage can do amazing things kiet. you would be surprised.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 10, 2008, 12:05:11 AM »

Kiet isn't refuting that, Kiet is referring to your post claiming two opposite things are both true.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #47 on:** March 10, 2008, 02:46:59 PM »

Exactly, and you didn't answer my question.

GrndAdmrlPellaeon · « **Reply #48 on:** March 10, 2008, 05:17:31 PM »

I always miss all the good arguments!

Isamu · « **Reply #49 on:** March 10, 2008, 08:33:53 PM »

okay here is how it works. and i take martial arts so i have expierence to back me up. in fact my black belt test is this saturday. okay. anger makes you powerful however, anger. can make you stupid at the same time. while your speed and agility increase, your ability to think through complex movies diminishes. do you see where i am going? anakin lacked the amount of training to stay focused under intense conditions such as that. with the force since you can see things coming, obi-wan was able to block everything anakin was throwing at him. if you noticed obi-wan was fighting defensivly and anakin was very aggressive.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #50 on:** March 10, 2008, 08:37:25 PM »

And Luke has even more experience than Obi-wan at the time, and possibly ever, considering the threats Luke faced that neither Anakin or Obi-wan did....

Isamu · « **Reply #51 on:** March 10, 2008, 08:54:29 PM »

yes and luke is more powerful than the 2 because of expierence.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #52 on:** March 10, 2008, 08:55:25 PM »

That was my point, Anakin had raw power, but Luke was far better trained and had learned a lot more.....

Slornie · « **Reply #53 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:01:22 PM »

So, ultimately, Luke is the most powerful Jedi. Im glad we're all in agreement about this!

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #54 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:02:43 PM »

~~Amen~~
No.
So say we all.

aNaRcHiSt44 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:20:50 PM »

I agree-Luke was TECHNICALLY the most powerful Jedi considering his experience, but Anakin had raw power, and if he actually possessed as much experience as Obi-Wan, he would have killed poor old Obi. The only reason Darth Vader lost to Luke in Ep 6 was because he had all thiose injuries from Ep 3, and plus that massive steel suit he was in would seriously hinder him, so he was exceedingly slow, much like a turtle.

Isamu · « **Reply #56 on:** March 11, 2008, 01:40:28 AM »

Quote from: Dane Kiet on March 10, 2008, 09:02:43 PM

~~Amen~~
No.
So say we all.

that made my day a little better after wasl!

Meyer · « **Reply #57 on:** March 11, 2008, 02:08:07 AM »

Actually Vader lost because Luke used his anger to overcome Vader. But still I say Anakin is the most powerful Jedi in the history. He was far stronger than Luke ever before the incidnet at Mustafar. there he lost a great deal of his powers. but posessed enough to keep himself alive until the emperor came. Not something you can do if you are weak. Luke can never get even near as powerful than Anakin was before going to the suit. Not even if Luke trains and pratices 100 years. Which he can't.

Isamu · « **Reply #58 on:** March 11, 2008, 02:14:52 AM »

i'm still going to stick with revan

Corey · « **Reply #59 on:** March 11, 2008, 02:20:10 AM »

Quote from: Meyer on March 11, 2008, 02:08:07 AM

Not even if Luke trains and pratices 100 years. Which he can't.

Eh, you can't be too sure of that. There isn't any mention of a life expectancy for human jedi who have not had the happy little problem of running into a lightsaber.

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