Author Topic: (SPLIT) from sith empire discussion, Luke Skywalker (Read 54510 times)

Razgriz · « **on:** March 06, 2008, 06:57:34 AM »

Quote from: Scarecrow63 on March 05, 2008, 09:01:53 PM

And Revan is nothing compared to Luke Skywalker, you cant argue that

Lol yes he is. If you toss Revan a "Modern" lightsaber he could take down Luke Skywalker easily. All the Ancient Sithlords could

vadereclipse · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2008, 12:36:56 PM »

there is sort of a deterioation of the lightsaber skill with time in the galaxy. look at what kreia said in kotor 2 regarding ajunta pall.

Razgriz · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2008, 03:13:49 PM »

Quote from: vadereclipse on March 06, 2008, 12:36:56 PM

there is sort of a deterioation of the lightsaber skill with time in the galaxy. look at what kreia said in kotor 2 regarding ajunta pall.

Exactly thats the quote i was looking for. It was like "We would pale in comparrison with the masters of the lightsabers arts millenia ago" or something. And that was 4000 years before Luke Skywalker.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2008, 03:50:10 PM »

Too bad Luke is pretty much the most powerful jedi, so i dont give a crap what any game says, Luke is far better than Revan

Slornie · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:08:08 PM »

Quote from: Razgriz on March 06, 2008, 03:13:49 PM

Quote from: vadereclipse on March 06, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
there is sort of a deterioation of the lightsaber skill with time in the galaxy. look at what kreia said in kotor 2 regarding ajunta pall.
Exactly thats the quote i was looking for. It was like "We would pale in comparrison with the masters of the lightsabers arts millenia ago" or something. And that was 4000 years before Luke Skywalker.

Just because the Jedi/Sith of c4000 BBY were weaker than the Jedi/Sith millenia prior to them, doesnt mean that the trend continued for the next 4000 years.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:12:30 PM »

but it is very likely, with the exception of a few eg. mace windu w/vapaad.
yeah, an luke is... well... ok, but i think he is best credited as restoring the jedi order, not as a opponent.

Corey · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:24:17 PM »

Are you kidding me? He's constantly referred to as the most powerful jedi.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:30:14 PM »

Besides, the reason battle skills are lost would be because they would not have needed them for peace. They would have been taught sloppy techniques, while Luke had to learn pretty much from scratch, without these preconceived notions on what is "proper". He would have pushed himself to greater and greater standards.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:35:13 PM »

i'll stick to what i know. i am not an expert post-4 ABY, so i am in terms of this community, a b it of a sw idiot.

Isamu · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2008, 05:54:47 PM »

Quote from: Slornie on March 06, 2008, 04:08:08 PM

Quote from: Razgriz on March 06, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: vadereclipse on March 06, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
there is sort of a deterioation of the lightsaber skill with time in the galaxy. look at what kreia said in kotor 2 regarding ajunta pall.
Exactly thats the quote i was looking for. It was like "We would pale in comparrison with the masters of the lightsabers arts millenia ago" or something. And that was 4000 years before Luke Skywalker.
Just because the Jedi/Sith of c4000 BBY were weaker than the Jedi/Sith millenia prior to them, doesnt mean that the trend continued for the next 4000 years.

yes it does

Corey · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2008, 05:55:18 PM »

And you're basing this on...?

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2008, 06:10:31 PM »

You'd have to be a complete idiot to believe nothing ever changes....

Isamu · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2008, 07:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Arbiter on March 06, 2008, 05:55:18 PM

And you're basing this on...?

the fact that the trend has already been continueing for thousands of years. besides scarecrow. things are changing for the worse

Corey · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2008, 07:17:51 PM »

Yoda had been around for a thousand years, and he got beaten by Palpatine, who had been around for (I assume) 100, who then got beat by Luke who had been around for about 30. (Dark Empire)

Isamu · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2008, 07:19:42 PM »

yea but thats a prophecy being fullfilled so there was really no option of luke or the emperor losing

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2008, 07:23:19 PM »

Ah, but that doesn't make them any less powerful. It just means that their power was predicted.

Corey · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2008, 07:27:43 PM »

Luke killing Palpatine in Dark Empire wasn't part of a prophecy, neither was Palpatine beating Yoda..... Eitherwho, it is ALL predicted. Star Wars isn't exactly real.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2008, 07:29:55 PM »

That too. And, we have ignored the other faction the Sith would have to fight: the Rebellion.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2008, 09:49:40 PM »

I fyou try and deny that Luke Skywalker is the most powerful, you obviously aren't allowed to be a Star Wars fan

Isamu · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2008, 11:09:31 PM »

but luke isn't the most powerful he has had his ass handed to him multiple times