Author Topic: School shootings (Read 15346 times)

Meyer · « **on:** November 08, 2007, 01:49:20 AM »

What makes people to star a killing spree in school?

vadereclipse · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2007, 02:10:36 AM »

mental instability. They are deranged.
or being american lol. JOKING
last year, werent there 6 school shootings in 1 week in the USA?
i hear finland had their first on my other EAW forum.

Meyer · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2007, 06:55:05 AM »

depends. do you count that as a school shooting when one boy shoots two boys he hates in revenge? It is nothing like those usual shootings in usa when the gunmen just shoots everyone they see. if you don't count that one explained up there yes that was our first shooting. And no one saw it coming. We are taking too much of an example from usa.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2007, 12:09:17 PM »

i guess.
i normally think of a school shooting as a massacre of students.
its hard to distinguish between a killing for your reason, and a school shooting. i guess shootings are slightly more organised normally.

Meyer · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2007, 12:24:50 PM »

define organized. Every school shooting I know haven't had any special targets. the shooter/s go to school and kill as many people they can and finally commit suicide.

Kratas · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2007, 01:24:02 PM »

i heard about those finland shootings on news

vadereclipse · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2007, 01:30:37 PM »

organised- planned in advace. in some way. not decided minutes before it happens.

junot · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2007, 02:09:37 PM »

Meyer what do you mean you take the USA's directions? that is a stupid idiotic thing to say, i am an American and just because you have a school shooting doesn't mean you are taking our direction. Just admit it, Finland is far from perfect your country is messed up too. that doesn't mean we are the cause of your problems. your citizens committed the shooting end of story leave America out of it, unless you are talking about school shootings as a whole, don't blame your shootings on us.

Meyer · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2007, 12:25:30 AM »

what I meant was that some indiciduals are taking example from usa. Auvinen for example admired the shooters of columbine and virginia. Without those shootings would this have happened? maybe, maybe not we can't never know. And yes Finland isn't perfect country. no country is. but we have something better here than usa. Finland has the third highest gun ownership in the world and still this was the first major school shooting in our history. And there was that Myyrmanni bomb strike few years back. more resemblance from usa and other western countries were terrorist make bomb strikes. but I would see that this bomb strike relates much to the Oklahoma bomb attack as both were done by people who were born and raised in the country they then bombed and neither was muslim. Now we just wait for planes to come down or maybe we see Estonia as a threat to our security and attack it in the name of peace and liberty.

junot · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:13:20 AM »

ya i am not saying we are perfect either we have our own issues. but our population is a lot larger then yours so of course our ratio would be higher. stop blaming them getting their ideas from us. in the end they chose to do it plain and simple.

Meyer · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2007, 06:26:04 AM »

yep. I didn't blame you. I said that we are taking an example of usa. you have had the most school shootings in world. and the most deadliest. I didn't say it is usas fault. but the fact remains that Auvinen did get the idea from usa and that he admired the school shooters of columbine and virginia. without those shootings would he have gotten the idea? I doubt it. school shooting is something that is not done in finland. And when I say that he got example from usa, don't come and say that he didn't if he (Auvinen) said it himself in his writings on the internet. and that fact that usa has the highest gun ownership in the world has nothing to do with the number of murders and shooting done. The problem is in the people as you said yourself.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2007, 12:37:24 PM »

one week, america had 6 school shootings. i propportionately, russia would of had a third the school shootings of UA, but it doesn't. i think the last major one was the chechnya schoold shooting about 3 years ago, and there may have been one more recent one. america, on the other hand, have at least one a year, probably more. all the school shooting that have happened outside of usa. i doubt its even half of the number in the USA. oh well, at least this time next year, bush wont be president. hopefully, there will be someone with the sense to reinforce gun ownership laws.

Meyer · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:40:03 PM »

tightening the gun laws won't propably help.

junot · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:41:38 PM »

vader r u american? cause if ur not then shut up. im tired of everyone flaming us and our president. express your opinion once thats all it takes.

Meyer · « **Reply #14 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:30:06 PM »

Typical american. Orders everyone who isn't an american to shut up. and with what right may I ask? And if truth hurts too bad.

Xoriss · « **Reply #15 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:33:41 PM »

Hmm...If I had a guess it would be overstress. Being totally stressed out can screw with your mind massively.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #16 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:50:06 PM »

it might not help, but it will make it harder for them to get guns, and so, there will be less trouble with them, but they may just start up school stabbings lol.
junot, you are an idiot if you think bus was a good president. Worst president ever. america needs a president who isnt republican. and no, im english, junot. you probably know me as that guy from the country with all the stupid liberals (i myself am left wing. im satirising you.) what good has bush done?
iraq- hmm completely destabilised a country, which had NO Weapons of mass destruction, and although it had a bad dictator, it wasnt justified. it was for oil, and only oil. now Iraq has a fragile democracy, which will undoubtedly collapse as soon as troops move out. Bush has put Iraq into a stalemate. Killing terrorists won't stop terrorism. They are going to die either way. do you really think a terrorist will not be a suicide bomber because americans might kill him? bush has done nothing but badness to America. And i dont hate america. i congratulate the blue states for being against bush! at least there are Americans who are Anti-Bush (unlike you)

typical americans= racist, elitist creationist idiots (well at least junot is portraying himself like that)

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:41:20 PM »

Its the Democrats who let the ban on automatic weapons expire

Slornie · « **Reply #18 on:** November 09, 2007, 04:16:08 PM »

Anyhow, discussing America and politics arent the subject of this thread..

Meyer · « **Reply #19 on:** November 09, 2007, 04:36:21 PM »

could someone cause a school shooting just for fun? If they're really messed up in the head then maybe they could.