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October 11, 2014, 01:40:35 PMReply #60

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« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2014, 01:40:35 PM »
Not really, after all, eventually they all died, so at least Dooku died as the man he lived as.

Agreed, he's also the only character to NOT scream like a pansy when his hands were cut off or milk it....Mace I'm looking at you here...
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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2014, 02:14:45 PM »
Yhea Love Freekin Mace 'motherfucker' windu. (You know who's the actor behind so you should probably Know what the motherfucker mean...)
Even the Dark Knigth in The monty phython of the holly grail is not match for him ! (Do your emeber when he get cut his arms and legs and survive...)

But he scream when sidious thraw his ligthning ! (Remember Revan against Vitiate how painfull it his....)

What you have to keep in mind is Anakin more oppen than the other Jedi.. The Jedi are alway we clean the job we just help in diplomacy don't care about politics.. And Anakin care about it he want a better world the perfect system !!! He doubt on the Jedi code from his childhood.... If you read
This :
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And the other special edition... Anakin is pretty isolated he got no friends.. Obiwan have friend in his childhood... But Anakin keep isolated at expermient and build mechanics things.... The link between Obiwan and Anakin is weird...
After palpatine tell him and Jedi doesn't care about them self.. Errr actually yess they does !!!
Look at this :


Their is also the incident with this mother (I think that's sidious sending him those visions...) he swear that's he will be able to to protect anyone... Preventing them fro dieing..... (But you know plagueis the wise where wise and he where able to choose wisly who need to leav or die because you can't do this..)

Anakin cannot accept death... Exept for his ennemies...

So he really doubt about Jedi and begin to think siths are no so bad after all.... Jedis tell me don't fall to teh dark side etc etc all my life.. But they where wrong !!!
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October 11, 2014, 08:52:19 PMReply #62

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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2014, 08:52:19 PM »
Agreed, he's also the only character to NOT scream like a pansy when his hands were cut off or milk it....Mace I'm looking at you here...

Ah, dignity. When you have nothing else left, you can at least say you didn't go out like a small child.
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October 12, 2014, 12:07:03 AMReply #63

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« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2014, 12:07:03 AM »
Agreed, he's also the only character to NOT scream like a pansy when his hands were cut off or milk it....Mace I'm looking at you here...

God I hated that.  At least Luke's scream when he lost his hand felt natural, a short scream due to the sudden pain.  Windu?  He screams long enough that he has to take a breath and start screaming again.

Seriously, he made it through the ass-kicking he took in Shatterpoint without screaming...

October 12, 2014, 12:41:39 AMReply #64

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« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2014, 12:41:39 AM »
Maybe he finally lost his emotional control (and falling to your death is as good a time as any to rethink the Jedi code). Or more likely it was typical Samuel L. Jackson ham and cheese.
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October 12, 2014, 03:27:25 AMReply #65

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« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2014, 03:27:25 AM »
Personaly I love star war with all the mistakes...
The Stortroopers let escape the rebels in the death star to lead the empire at the rebel base... But they become popular to bee great noob and that's why they were surrounded  by Ewoks.... (I always find the battle between gungan and CSI more logical, the tactics of boths sides where more logicals and gungans were defeated... If you don't look at JarJar....)

I hate ewoks personaly.... But but in Galatique battle ground you can unlock ewoks with a cheat code, they have shield they are undestrible super fast have super range super power OP and the description is hilarous !!!!!!
In FoC they are kamikaze... And in a mod named super star war of EaW you can build simons from battle ground galactica, une squad of 3 = 1800 and they are totaly OP XDXDXDXD Hilarous joke and references to SW universe....

With windu I j=live the fact of being super warriored... O.K Jango fett V.S windu the most bad ass bounty hunter of all the time windu have no chance... Round 1 figth K.O Mace win Fatality.

Well if you don't love the fact than Jango Fett Die without showing all his abilities... You cannot Rewrite the moovie.... So....
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October 12, 2014, 08:22:22 AMReply #66

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« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2014, 08:22:22 AM »
There's the rub: per Palpatine's design, there was no mechanism by which Order 66 could be rescinded. Even if a group of pro-Jedi Senators did succeed in seizing control, they would have to either rescind the order (impossible) or disband the GAR (practically impossible and inadvisable given that the CIS was still capable of causing trouble). We can perhaps take the moral high road in which the GAR disbands, the remaining Confederates are allowed to secede in peace, and the Jedi can come out of hiding, albeit very unpopular and minus the Temple. But then...
It really depends on what's in the other 145 Orders that we don't have any information on.  Bearing in mind the obvious attention paid to the use and transfer of power it seems logical that there might be some subsection giving an interim Chancellor the authority to rescind or reverse actions taken by the previous post-holder.  There's also the possibility that the Jedi Council may have had some level of authority or influence around declaring the Chancellor unfit for duty or identifying him as a traitor and any related Orders/protocols.

If Yoda had succeeded in defeating Palpatine in the Senate Chamber and could provide evidence that Palpatine had been a threat/traitor to the Republic then you might have a temporary deadlock.  Order 4 would have taken effect transferring control of the GAR to Mas Amedda in his role as Vice Chair of the Senate, but you'd have two conflicting messages - the Jedi are traitors and have assassinated the Chancellor, but the Jedi were acting on information that the Chancellor was a Sith Lord and his orchestration of both sides of the war made him a traitor to the Republic.

Although Amedda was obviously aligned with Palpatine did he have sufficient support, charisma and ambition to try and continue implementing Palpatine's plan?  Could he have been pressured into rescinding Order 66 pending a full investigation?  With Vader off killing the Separatist leaders on Mustafar and shutting down the droid armies the war would also come to a sudden and unexpected end generating even more confusion in the Senate.
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October 12, 2014, 08:54:04 AMReply #67

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« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2014, 08:54:04 AM »
Yhea palpatine posses a mind control... You know.. "Palpatine is taking power enormous pwoer that's strange..." "We can fell the dark side from the senate..."

Exept Yoda is very old.... He god difficulties to walk without using the force (remeber the end in Metal Gear... He Run very fast etc... But need to sleep)
Using Ataru against palpatine to brek him down the most quickly as he can, I mean before he get tired.. Wasn't a good idea... Because It was so usless.. Palpatine is using his emotions to hide is real intentions, he let him be guided by is emetions but stay in control.... So Yoda couldn't break his defense.....
Sidious make physichals economies....

Amedda were plapatine's toy like many non-human... In the past he try to use this naïve palpatine before discovering the sith lord behind it and be seducced by the character.... He just follow blindy palpatine is intelligent clever.. But Sidious is more... So...

The Jedi have already being executed.. Yoda figth Palpatine after order 66 and the proclamations of a new galactic empire !!!
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October 12, 2014, 08:56:03 AMReply #68

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« Reply #68 on: October 12, 2014, 08:56:03 AM »
It really depends on what's in the other 145 Orders that we don't have any information on.  Bearing in mind the obvious attention paid to the use and transfer of power it seems logical that there might be some subsection giving an interim Chancellor the authority to rescind or reverse actions taken by the previous post-holder.  There's also the possibility that the Jedi Council may have had some level of authority or influence around declaring the Chancellor unfit for duty or identifying him as a traitor and any related Orders/protocols.

If Yoda had succeeded in defeating Palpatine in the Senate Chamber and could provide evidence that Palpatine had been a threat/traitor to the Republic then you might have a temporary deadlock.  Order 4 would have taken effect transferring control of the GAR to Mas Amedda in his role as Vice Chair of the Senate, but you'd have two conflicting messages - the Jedi are traitors and have assassinated the Chancellor, but the Jedi were acting on information that the Chancellor was a Sith Lord and his orchestration of both sides of the war made him a traitor to the Republic.

Although Amedda was obviously aligned with Palpatine did he have sufficient support, charisma and ambition to try and continue implementing Palpatine's plan?  Could he have been pressured into rescinding Order 66 pending a full investigation?  With Vader off killing the Separatist leaders on Mustafar and shutting down the droid armies the war would also come to a sudden and unexpected end generating even more confusion in the Senate.

Some real nice analysis here :).

The Jedi could still be in equally bad situation even with Sidious dead. Look at it this way: First the Jedi led by Mace Windu try to seize power and assassinate the good chancellor Palpatine but fail, only for Master Yoda to brutally murder him, in the Senate of all places, just days later. Then the public would learn that the heroic Anakin Skywalker single-handedly ended the war on Mustafar, only to end up dead himself together with his pregnant wife by the hand of the traitor General Kenobi. That's some seriously bad PR for the Jedi Order.

October 12, 2014, 09:40:06 AMReply #69

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« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2014, 09:40:06 AM »
There is yoda windu is dead + 3 or 4 Jedi master in the council....
Many Jedi where killed... The Jedi are quasi extinted....
An opposition... eeeeerrrrr in term of opinion.. They have assassinat eteh chancelor fore their pseudo pacifist idelogy, and try to acheieve what they think is good by taking the power and spread their greater good... (That's the idea of the Jedi scend by palpatine....), even if the real Jedi's thinking is : Let's politic do their shit we are here to clean after...

But if Yoda is defeated that's mean Kenobi is defeated (it's very complicate to explain but there is only one than can die it's the force will... The probably is to high to be denied)
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October 12, 2014, 10:46:57 AMReply #70

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« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2014, 10:46:57 AM »
It really depends on what's in the other 145 Orders that we don't have any information on.  Bearing in mind the obvious attention paid to the use and transfer of power it seems logical that there might be some subsection giving an interim Chancellor the authority to rescind or reverse actions taken by the previous post-holder.  There's also the possibility that the Jedi Council may have had some level of authority or influence around declaring the Chancellor unfit for duty or identifying him as a traitor and any related Orders/protocols.

Possible, but I've the feeling Palps wouldn't do that because he had no intention of dying. Of course somebody may have taken a peek over his shoulder, so maybe he included it to throw off suspicion?

The Jedi could still be in equally bad situation even with Sidious dead. Look at it this way: First the Jedi led by Mace Windu try to seize power and assassinate the good chancellor Palpatine but fail, only for Master Yoda to brutally murder him, in the Senate of all places, just days later. Then the public would learn that the heroic Anakin Skywalker single-handedly ended the war on Mustafar, only to end up dead himself together with his pregnant wife by the hand of the traitor General Kenobi. That's some seriously bad PR for the Jedi Order.

In such a case the first thing you do is gather evidence that Palpatine was a Sith and allow somebody with standing in the Senate (Organa, for example) to present said evidence, while bringing Kenobi and Yoda to testify as to what exactly a Sith is and what really happened. If nothing else they can reduce the threat, if not eliminate it altogether. Of course they might end up kicked off Coruscant, in which case where would they go? Most of their other hideouts (Dantooine, Ossus, Telos, Tython) have fallen into disrepair.
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October 12, 2014, 02:04:23 PMReply #71

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« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2014, 02:04:23 PM »
At that point, I think Bail and many others were kind of treading in hot coals in their standings in the senate and any one of them could easily have been accused of treason in my view. Hell, at that point, he's part of minority of senators who did notice something was wrong and was willing to speak out against it...And yet even at one point Padme says Bail was acting like a Separatist would when he made it clear how he felt the Republic is going.


I guess it's like use him or anyone willing to listen to Yoda and Obi-Wan...And expect some sort of backlash coming from Palpatine loyalists (aka a majority of the dumbass galaxy that would soon learn they just doomed everything) that could either destroy their career or at worst...Suddenly be killed and be accused of starting a rebellion of sorts.



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« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2014, 03:57:59 PM »
The senate is massivly under sidious dead....
That's mean many senator have been brainswah to stay loyal to Palpatine... They will be free to think by them self.. But they won't be ho now I'm clean of this brainwash.. They still believe in what palpatine write in their mind....

Sooooo The senate will be difficulte to convice.... And Remeber the Jedi are weaken... And if Yoda defeat Sidious why Anakin doesn't be able to beat Anakin????

When palpatine proclame the fall of the republic the majority of the senate says : "Yes" and cheers !!!! The opposants were minors.... Not only because the Jedi try to assassinate him....

The new galactic empire is already created. The Jedi are already considered as traitors.... So it will hard for the opposents to create a moral oppositions..
It will be quicly turned into a Galactic civil war...
Like it was after plapatine but earlier against a weaker empire !
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« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2014, 04:01:21 PM »
We are missing the true issue here...why are there no HUTT clone troopers? I blame speciesism. Resistant to Force and energy weapons, long lived and adaptable and cclearly intelligent.  I want to see a GAR of Hutt clone troopers in a what if scenario!
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« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2014, 04:39:27 PM »
Because they are too slow XD !!!!!
Go legion of hutt cap the point !!! Ar The rebel are already at 30KM We are at 100 metters we will never gets there XD !!!
And Palpatine is racist....
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« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2014, 05:16:47 PM »
We are missing the true issue here...why are there no HUTT clone troopers? I blame speciesism. Resistant to Force and energy weapons, long lived and adaptable and cclearly intelligent.  I want to see a GAR of Hutt clone troopers in a what if scenario!

Heh, that would be impressive.

Unless for some reason, they suffer the same reason why a Yinchorri, no matter how much Darth Plagueis tried, Clone Army doesn't fly...It just won't happen to their DNA or some excuse like that...Or you could argue the force is being rather pissy and screws any attempts for species other than humans to be cloned.

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« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2014, 05:45:35 PM »
A unit of Hutts wouldn't work alongside the GAR. They're too slow to travel on foot and probably too heavy to have more than two or three in a gunship. The entire army would have to be redesigned. Why not just have a Wookiee troop instead? Loyal to a fault, capable fighters up close or at a distance, and all you'd have to do is resize uniforms. Plus, Wookiees are just badass.
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« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2014, 05:54:05 PM »
Heh, that would be impressive.

Unless for some reason, they suffer the same reason why a Yinchorri, no matter how much Darth Plagueis tried, Clone Army doesn't fly...It just won't happen to their DNA or some excuse like that...Or you could argue the force is being rather pissy and screws any attempts for species other than humans to be cloned.

Well it takes like about a hundred years for a Hutt to reach adulthood. So it would take ages to grow a Hutt clone army, even if growth acceleration was achieved. I believe Wookiees would have similar issues. It would be a nightmare to commit to the upkeep of millions of hungry adolescent Hutts with extravagant tastes for decades. Besides, which Hutt would become the prime clone?

I do like the story potential of thousands of Hutts suffering from clone madness wandering around the Galaxy. Could have been a terrible yet funny Bantam-era book.

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« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2014, 07:27:04 PM »
Begun...the Hutt Wars have...hmmm yes. Wish i could see that. Maybe a Huttese Jedi Knight or Bounty Hunter just for amusements sake...

As to prime clone...Jabba's dad? He had a beard....so...he's superior in the facial hair area at least.
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« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2014, 11:05:55 PM »
I do recall there was a Hutt Jedi...Who apparently went to the dark side, ruled a planet, Jedi Order completely forgets his existence...And many years later got beaten by Leia who at the time was a very mediocre Jedi (as in before she devoted her training) and still engaged in politics thanks to years of laziness it seems.


...We need a better Hutt Jedi.
 

 

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