Who prefer the moovie to the extented universe?

[Revan]

Tell me who? Be honnest !!! If you don't lokk at that !!!

[Lord Xizer]

Its rare for me to watch the movies anymore but the EU is my stomping grounds. So many memories

[tlmiller]

EU is too full of plot bunnies, can't read most of the book.  The movies are too full of supremely poor acting, can't stand to watch them.  Honestly, don't know what keeps me liking the Star Wars universe given that I refuse to touch anything related to it other than games anymore.

[Vulcanus]

EU is too full of plot bunnies, can't read most of the book.  The movies are too full of supremely poor acting, can't stand to watch them.  Honestly, don't know what keeps me liking the Star Wars universe given that I refuse to touch anything related to it other than games anymore.

I read Darth Plagueis for the first time this summer as well as did rereading of The Legacy comics. Even in the great heap of inconsistent storytelling that is the Star Wars universe, there are some truly magnificent works that keep rekindling my interest when all else fails.

Oh, and A New Dawn is reportedly a good book  . Going to pick that up eventually. Hard to go wrong with John Jackson Miller.

[jordanthejq12]

A couple of slightly unrelated things. One, I recognize a Timpedia piece anywhere, and you clearly have good taste in sources. Second, you've been posting as a guest for some time now, Revan. Have you considered creating an account?

On topic, EU vs. movies depends on particular format of EU and which trilogy of movies. The OT has better acting and drama, the PT has better action sequences, and when you combine those you get the Obi-Wan/Anakin duel in ROTS. I love games, particularly the KotOR games, which are actually very basic gameplay-wise, but beautifully written (especially the second). The books are subject to author rivalries and plot bunnies, while the comics brought us Dark Empire, so enough said on those. TV? Nothing worth saying before The Clone Wars, a series that I have not seen much of since season one, so I cannot make a judgment on that. (The return of Maul was done pretty well in my opinion, however.)

Frankly, the reboot has thrown a baby out with some pretty stinky bathwater: Legacy of the Force (I'm told a lot of people hate Cadeus), Dark Empire (really? REALLY? You just HAD to bring Palps back, huh?), the rarely-used and/or overpowered weapons in Rebellion and Galactic Battlegrounds created to fill out the engine, IG-88 controlling the DSII, etc. So like any timeline of any universe, SW Legends had its ups and downs. We don't know what of the EU will be mined to fill out the old continuity, but we can hope future writers learn from the mistakes of old.

Ideally, the Sequel Trilogy incorporates the drama of the OT with the cool action of the PT. And it's not like just because Disney owns it means it's going to suck (The Avengers, anyone?) or rock (pick a Marvel flick you hate). And the new canon will see the good stuff from the EU and bring it back, while leaving the less desirable elements to rot. If these things are done, wiping the slate clean will at the very least look like a creative decision and not a stupid one.

[Revan]

Yhea it's good to see the moovies.... Because in clone war 501th soldiers are able to think... The explanation of the implant.. That's don't work they have tis implant from the beging and they work from the begining ! Obiwan encounter grievious before  SW III but in the moovie Grievous say : "Fool Doku train me to your Jedi arts." That's mean they never figth before !
I like to see even the prequel still logic it's happening something.. Taht's like a story line with conexion to the background of story line... But they show the background of the universe (brievly it gave pist and clues wich will be devlopped by the comminity) not the background of the storyline... You have to rethink all of the thing yourself... About Anakin thinking his doubts on the jedi code (see the video Are Jedi evil? / Are we all sith?) It's all about huess analysis (about palpatine's manipulation his it him who send vision to anakin, is he using mind tricks against the sena?) even in the original there is refernce the empire represnt the nazis, references exist and it have been demonstrated....)

But like they said in star war magazins before the force unleashed : "What the saga without the imaginations of the fans?" They talk after to detail what could be great a person who has been in the shadow of the vader's traning without contact to the outworld but.. No that wasn't devlop in the game... and worst when you hit someone with a very pitfull ligth saber attack it's hurt but it dosen't cut like in Jedi Knigth acdemy but it was a nice tentativ to make us feel and embrase the force in the era of next gen....

I like extraodinary chracter like revan. Or elss important but with amazing story like Ace azemeen !
I like the Idea of Xizor tyber zaan (I don't approve teh story in all points but in the general Idea.. Welcome to real life, there is corruption in the world !)

[Revan]

Ha Yhea P.S : I'm french and I watched the moovie in french first and I can tell Anakin have a very good voice in french !! Not execellent but it's good it's fresh young, not very accurate for the "great noble discussion of love" but If you remeber the scene of the bar in épisode II.. Us in France Remeber This quote used many time and it's in our actual langage now This quote is "Negociation musclée" we find the scene great. It was the freshest moment in anakin voice acting in french... Mac gregor it's fine but the original still much better...

Zfter it's all the same. If you look into lucas art magzine they say even in the first trilogy I don't knew who I was.. Only I was just the bad guy. (About vader) So you have no exuse about the acting... In both it's weird....

[Revan]

P.P.S : They make a lot's of reboots. I appreciate but sometimes taht's bad.. sometimes taht's really good (1313 fore example no import the scenario it's all in the ambiance of the city...)

[Lord Xizer]

The performances of Christopher Lee, Ian McDiarmid, Ewan McGregor and Tem Morrison were exceptional in the prequels

[jordanthejq12]

That's true. It's even been pointed out that Christensen didn't look too bad, especially in ROTS. (Seriously, watch the parts in the third act when he just gives a look. Is that creepy or what?) It was when he had to say something that he fell victim to subpar writing, which was not his fault.

Really, that's my number one beef with the PT: the writing. Gorgeous scenery, wicked good action, and several very interesting characters. But all of that means nothing without good writing. ST writers, if you want to keep the franchise alive, please take note.

[Revan]

I mean look at the extended universe 3 years mont after the end of SW III  there is more contenent is the extented universe about the prequel than the original trilogy  (peharps I'm exagerating.. But) wich one exist from an older time !!!! Because there is more interesting chracter.. Compare Grievous to grand moff tarkin... Anakin to Luke. We know everything about luke that's the blablabkla young guy elected to save the world blablabla borring isn't it? Grievous have a more interesting story !, that's luke cannot have !!!!! I mean look in the review of the PT from this point of view palpatine is the greatest manipulator ever !
Not the greaddy empeor ho evil no evil empeor who is on the evil side of the force how could this be allowed to live? AND IT'S THE SAME CHARCTER !!!!!!!

Now it's changing because we so many thing about the prequels than we go the original after original and old republic stuff.. you can't write a line more about the prequel !!!!

[CaptainPogo]

I do admit, the movies still have their charm (even the PT...When it does feel like SW to me).

The EU has some good things...And a lot of stupid things.

While the Yuuzhan Vong war has some decisions I felt were kind of dumb (New Rublic composed of idiots, Chewie dying, etc), it was actually one Hell of a gutsy move to put the characters in a rather bleak situation (like...Chewie dying...It's a bad/good thing to me) and even in the end, nothing is the same anymore due to the god damn death count.

[Lord Xizer]

I actually liked seeing the New Republic shown for the corrupt and morally hollow fraud it always was in the Yuuzhan Vong War

[Pali]

I quite enjoyed the Vong war myself - as Xizer points out it does a fine job highlighting the weaknesses of a democratic system (though the Remnant didn't fair much better near the end - really, the Hapan monarchy seemed to weather it the best out of govt. types in terms of emerging fairly unscathed beyond their ship losses at Fondor), as well as doing a lot of exploration into various Force philosophies and providing a lot of really epic moments and stories (Ganner's last stand is among my top few moments in all Star Wars).  It had its low points, to be sure - the Zonama Sekot storyline dragged on a bit, I wasn't a huge fan of the Han-focused books after Ithorians fell, etc., but it had a lot of good stuff in it too.

[Revan]

I dosen't like Yhuzaa Vong story...

When I talk to the reboot in the EU... I said sometimes they do good sometimes wrong...

An empire in star war nead someone like Revan at the leading.... I know he's death a long long very longtime ago... I like sometimes seeing fan creating their own story line and bring back Revan during the clone war the civil war etc.. But That's not good.. What's could be good is to find a method  to bring him back to life.. And after the Yuzaa vong etc... Bring a conclusion ! Thank to him...

As I alway says if knowledge is power then Revan should probably the most powerfull man in the universe more than anyone in warhammer halo.. Any Forrerrunner precursor have his Knowledge.. In my opinion is more wise than yoda is, because he is also more clever..

They sayed anakin where elected to be the chosen one... Revan where somekind of chosen one I suppose than Traya is the human incarnation of a Athena like deity, and Revan is her chosen one.... Someone able to bring clarity to the all universe... More than anyone else..

And I'd like to see him a last time...At the last moment....

[Revan]

Look at that's....

[StarLordX]

I prefer Star Wars games that have EU storylines. The Jedi Knight and Force Unleashed games are proof of that, but I pick Jedi Knight overall because of the emotional tone of the stories they have, namely Kyle Katarn trying to hunt down Jerec (and later, Desann).

[Revan]

Look at 27:03 Interesting saying !

[CaptainPogo]

I do got to say, I never enjoyed the New Republic outside of the longtime military officers...AKA the guys who did fight the Empire because they gave a damn about making the galaxy a better place. I mean yeah, the more reasonable leaders tried so hard to not be like the Republic before (which I loath even more for the corruption and the shit storm that came with it) but in many books, they just drop the ball at times. Yuuzhan Vong war was pretty much rock bottom for them once they just suck overall.

I don't blame the IR for not faring as well against the Vong but they weren't the same Empire that I honestly could say can handle the Vong. While I do chuckle at Han's retort over what the old Empire would do, he's...Quite dead wrong to say the least in my opinion.

[Lord Xizer]

Agreed, even the Vong like Czulkang Lah, Shimmra, Nom Anor and Nas Choka admitted that the Empire would have been a far more vicious opponent to fight. They were more vicious, ruthless and had a military that was literally 12 times stronger than the NR ever reached. They had alliances with large cartels and various xenophobic species they could use. The vong would have had to deal with massive couterattacks almost from the very start rather than being allowed to gradually build up a beach head like the NR gave them