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December 18, 2013, 03:00:35 PM

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Star Wars 7 plot wish list
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:00:35 PM »
Since we are only two years away from the release of Star Wars 7, what would you like the plot to be?  I would prefer it to start with Outbound Flight.  My reasoning is that the prequel era Jedi need to be redeemed a bit and having the Outbound Flight would give that opportunity.  Also it would introduce Grand Admiral Thrawn giving the average Joe a chance to see him as something other than the bad guy, even though he is just fighting back against an illegal terrorist group who replaced the rightful Galactic government. Also as an end credit scene the holo-conversation between Thrawn and Sidious would be an awesome way to set up the Vong for later.  After Outbound Flight I would want the Dark Force trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn pair.  Both of these would lead into a massive campaign spanning 4-6 movies with a TV series filling in between releases and an online game that allows us to affect(effect?) the  course of events in the events of the Vong War.  The movies would cover Vector Prime, the Battle of Ithor, parts of Star by Star namely the Strike mission and the invasion of Coruscant with the beginning of the book covered by the TV series, the Battle of Ebaq 9, and the Liberation of Coruscant as the finale of Star Wars as a whole.  The online game would put people as officers so as they got better at the game the more people they would command.  They would be able to affect the plot by holding certain worlds longer than they are supposed to forcing a TV show where a major assault takes place and their character would be mentioned in a news reel or in a mission briefing in the TV series or something like that. Once finished though Star Wars would either end or go back and make the Sith Wars and Mandalorian Wars movies.
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December 18, 2013, 03:04:05 PMReply #1

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Re: Star Wars 7 plot wish list
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 03:04:05 PM »
I don't really care what it is, as long as they get people who know how to act in it.  6 movies and none of them have I actually liked the entire movie due to the piss-poor acting abaility of major characters.
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December 18, 2013, 03:23:49 PMReply #2

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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 03:23:49 PM »
I would like to see John Cleeve as Pellaeon but most of what I'd like to see won't happen, it'd be nice to see Zsinj, Teradoc, Harrsk, Delvardus and Isard doing their things but I just don't see it.
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December 18, 2013, 03:28:26 PMReply #3

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 03:28:26 PM »
Lord Xizer that is another great idea.  A movie trilogy from the Imperial perspective set immediately after Endor and the following years, with the Fall of Coruscant and Warlordism! I like this plan.
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December 18, 2013, 04:29:31 PMReply #4

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Re: Star Wars 7 plot wish list
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 04:29:31 PM »
Personally, considering the age of the original cast (long rumoured to be in the new films), I'd like to see the new trilogy skate lightly over the EU canon (i.e. not directly reference and not overtly contradict) and take place post Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi.  The text crawl might mention a galaxy weary after long years of war/rebuilding, for instance.

More specifically, I'd like to see:
- Focus on the next generation of characters (Jaina, Ben etc).
- Luke as the elderly mentor (a la "Old Ben") who dies off in the first film.
- Han/Leia take the Falcon against impossible odds with a reversal of the "I love you; I know" lines right before the ship crashes/explodes.

On the subject of the new standalone films (supposedly to be screened in the off-years between the main trilogy), I would love to see Crispin's Han Solo trilogy given the movie treatment, perhaps alongside something bridging the PT and OT (maybe a Mothma/birth of Rebellion film?) or expand on the backstory of some other C-canon character(s).

EDIT: Looking much further down the line (after the new trilogy and the standalones) I can see perhaps them coming back and filling in the time between the OT and the NT with a film treatment of the Thrawn Trilogy and other similar stories - at which point people will hopefully be able to accept a sympathetic recasting of the original characters. 

TV-wise, the long-stalled Underworld show would be nice, focusing on the period between films/trilogies and the stories of minor characters and the impact of those major events already shown.  Maybe also a TV Rogue Squadron show?
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December 18, 2013, 04:45:58 PMReply #5

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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 04:45:58 PM »
Slornie your idea is great but I really don't think the Original cast should have much of a role. Since they have been rumored for so long I am hoping they have a reunion over Endor for the 30th anniversary of the defeat of the Emperor or something, show the burned out husk of Endor to get rid of the Ewoks, and have Leia start a speech saying how the Emperor's death marked the beginning of the end of the Empire and then show the Rebels take Coruscant and launch into the movie proper. Or my genius idea, or Lord Xizer's.
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December 18, 2013, 09:25:57 PMReply #6

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Re: Star Wars 7 plot wish list
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 09:25:57 PM »
Personally, considering the age of the original cast (long rumoured to be in the new films), I'd like to see the new trilogy skate lightly over the EU canon (i.e. not directly reference and not overtly contradict) and take place post Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi.  The text crawl might mention a galaxy weary after long years of war/rebuilding, for instance.

More specifically, I'd like to see:
- Focus on the next generation of characters (Jaina, Ben etc).
- Luke as the elderly mentor (a la "Old Ben") who dies off in the first film.
- Han/Leia take the Falcon against impossible odds with a reversal of the "I love you; I know" lines right before the ship crashes/explodes.

On the subject of the new standalone films (supposedly to be screened in the off-years between the main trilogy), I would love to see Crispin's Han Solo trilogy given the movie treatment, perhaps alongside something bridging the PT and OT (maybe a Mothma/birth of Rebellion film?) or expand on the backstory of some other C-canon character(s).

EDIT: Looking much further down the line (after the new trilogy and the standalones) I can see perhaps them coming back and filling in the time between the OT and the NT with a film treatment of the Thrawn Trilogy and other similar stories - at which point people will hopefully be able to accept a sympathetic recasting of the original characters. 

TV-wise, the long-stalled Underworld show would be nice, focusing on the period between films/trilogies and the stories of minor characters and the impact of those major events already shown.  Maybe also a TV Rogue Squadron show?

^This. That would be a dream come true. You could thus pretty well ignore the EU without overwriting it.
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December 19, 2013, 06:51:48 PMReply #7

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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 06:51:48 PM »
Slornie just quick, I do not mean your idea is bad it is awesome but I think that the original cast is far too old to have major parts. Han is 70+ and Leia is not Leia anymore. The only one who bears any resemblance to their character is Luke but he is old too. I think it would be easier to recast now and be done with it rather than delay.
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December 20, 2013, 01:08:30 PMReply #8

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Re: Star Wars 7 plot wish list
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 01:08:30 PM »
Slornie just quick, I do not mean your idea is bad it is awesome but I think that the original cast is far too old to have major parts. Han is 70+ and Leia is not Leia anymore. The only one who bears any resemblance to their character is Luke but he is old too. I think it would be easier to recast now and be done with it rather than delay.
See, that's why I said set the new trilogy after Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi.  That sets it about 40 years after Return of the Jedi vs 32 years since Jedi was released in the cinema, which seems a reasonably natural fit with the way the cast have aged.  And I did say the trilogy should focus on the new generation - i.e. put Luke/Han/Leia in supporting roles before killing them off in fitting send-off's. :)
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December 20, 2013, 01:24:57 PMReply #9

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 01:24:57 PM »
Well that could work but how quickly would you want the old guys killed?  Luke could last awhile but I think Han might have a heart attack while filming if we leave him alive too long and Leia is different now so should have very little screen time as well.  On a different note, who would you want as the bad guys?
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January 09, 2014, 01:53:53 PMReply #10

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2014, 01:53:53 PM »
It'll be interesting to see how Leland Chee's recent announcement ties in with the new trilogy/standalone movies!  Maybe there is some hope that the EU won't be trashed after all?
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January 11, 2014, 04:59:41 PMReply #11

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 04:59:41 PM »
It'll be interesting to see how Leland Chee's recent announcement ties in with the new trilogy/standalone movies!  Maybe there is some hope that the EU won't be trashed after all?

I know. This announcement filled me with some hope that the EU (or at least some of it) may survive.
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January 16, 2014, 08:39:07 PMReply #12

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 08:39:07 PM »
The bigger question here is what in the EU would actually be worth keeping? So much of it is just utter dreck with cool new vehicles and superweapons thrown in to keep people reading. Take for example Dark Empire: an absolutely terrible, lazy plot that undermines the OT and puts authors into damage control mode for years afterward due to all the silliness it introduced. Hopefully, it will be one of the first stories to be stricken from the record when Disney starts to weed through the canon. Having said all that, though; I love the Eclipse. And the world devastators, and the sovereigns, and the galaxy gun.

The EU is filled with interesting ideas and settings let down by mediocre to horrible writing, and frankly I don't think I'll shed any tears when the mouse takes an axe to it. I'd bet that the Thrawn arc survives in some form, though the Hand of Thrawn duology will probably be gone, since Disney will want to write their own ending to the galactic civil war.

January 16, 2014, 10:13:27 PMReply #13

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 10:13:27 PM »
In my opinion the Thrawn story and the Vong war are what need to stay.  All else I would be willing to part with if what replaces it is worth while.  And I agree Dark Empire was stupid.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2014, 12:02:15 PM »
While I agree that much of the EU (aka pretty much all the Bantam Era) is pretty bad story-wise, a part of me would be sad to see them go. It's like Doctor Who: Sure after Tom Baker left the writing went downhill, and a lot of the later episodes of the original series are really terrible, but we don't just remove them from existence because of that fact. The bad episodes along with the good are all part of the Legacy, the Heritage of the show. It is the same with Star Wars. That being said, some books are unnecessary to the overall plot and could be removed, and I wouldn't mind seeing some of the worse books be rewritten or made into a miniseries or something to the like to clean them up.
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2014, 09:20:43 AM »
I wish this crap never see the sun ligth....
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2014, 12:17:44 PM »
I wish this crap never see the sun ligth....

I can see why some people are not particularly enthusiastic about these new films, but it's not like Disney is going to barge in my door and burn my copy of the Thrawn Trilogy. The only canon that matters to me is my personal canon. It could turn out to be a decent film with a great new story to tell, and there are never enough good stories in this world. And even if it sucks I'll still have my X-Wing books, Legacy Comics and the rest to fall back on, so no great damage done anyway.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2014, 02:05:53 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2014, 02:37:51 PM »
Copyright stuff like that was happening before Disney;  the issue with Let's Plays and videos is usually the use of music, which isn't actually owned by Disney, it's owned by SOE, and they're the ones who've been taking stuff down.
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2014, 03:05:39 PM »
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