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The Best WWII fighter.

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September 28, 2007, 02:59:09 PMReply #40

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Re: The Best
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2007, 02:59:09 PM »
and what was the point of attacking german cities if it is pointless without the ground forces? you bombed those cities from 1939 onward and first ground units came 1944.
What was the point of the Germans bombing British cities? The first ground units never turned up :P
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September 28, 2007, 03:32:54 PMReply #41

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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2007, 03:32:54 PM »
the uk was severely outnumbered and what happened in your country poland (isnt it) at least we could protect our borders
what do you mean? No understand.
i mean poland didnt exactly last long aagainst the germans did it

September 28, 2007, 03:35:17 PMReply #42

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« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2007, 03:35:17 PM »
i mean poland didnt exactly last long aagainst the germans did it
I'll give you a hint, Meyer's from Finland..
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September 28, 2007, 06:27:42 PMReply #43

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« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2007, 06:27:42 PM »
And why does it matter if they got their parts from the US or if they didn't show up in France?
That has absolutely nothing to do with the abilities of the pilots
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September 29, 2007, 01:59:34 AMReply #44

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« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2007, 01:59:34 AM »
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and in 1940 what cover did RAf give? there wasn't planes in france
the planes were there giving the ground forces cover as they retreated, actually. read about Dunkirk.

there were two hurricanes over dunkirk. german planes could do what they wanted.

and what was the point of attacking german cities if it is pointless without the ground forces? you bombed those cities from 1939 onward and first ground units came 1944.
What was the point of the Germans bombing British cities? The first ground units never turned up :P
The bombing of cities started in a weird way. first it was one german bomber that got lost in a fog. it dropped bombs when they thought they were in right place. well the bombs were dropped in some english city or village can't remember the name. then raf retaliated and bomber a few german citites. well Hitler wasn't very happy about it and ordered G
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September 29, 2007, 02:30:18 PMReply #45

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« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2007, 02:30:18 PM »
Well it doesn't say much if nearly all historians say that if germans had kept bombing rafs air fields for few more weeks there wouldn't have been any resistance after that. So the fact that Operation Seel
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September 29, 2007, 03:47:59 PMReply #46

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« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2007, 03:47:59 PM »
air fields arnt necessarily needed for takeoff
 planes can be hidden in barns as can there fuel and ammo

September 29, 2007, 03:55:35 PMReply #47

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« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2007, 03:55:35 PM »
there were two hurricanes over dunkirk. german planes could do what they wanted.
i have no idea where you got that information, but it is definitly wrong. The RAF were providing cover for the French and British units retreating from the Lufftwaffe.
The bombing of cities started in a weird way. first it was one german bomber that got lost in a fog. it dropped bombs when they thought they were in right place. well the bombs were dropped in some english city or village can't remember the name. then raf retaliated and bomber a few german citites. well Hitler wasn't very happy about it and ordered G
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September 29, 2007, 04:26:09 PMReply #48

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« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2007, 04:26:09 PM »
air fields arnt necessarily needed for takeoff
 planes can be hidden in barns as can there fuel and ammo

That will work for a few planes, but not enough to defend all of England
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September 29, 2007, 04:29:12 PMReply #49

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« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2007, 04:29:12 PM »
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September 29, 2007, 06:43:04 PMReply #50

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« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2007, 06:43:04 PM »
there were two hurricanes over dunkirk. german planes could do what they wanted.
i have no idea where you got that information, but it is definitly wrong. The RAF were providing cover for the French and British units retreating from the Lufftwaffe.
The bombing of cities started in a weird way. first it was one german bomber that got lost in a fog. it dropped bombs when they thought they were in right place. well the bombs were dropped in some english city or village can't remember the name. then raf retaliated and bomber a few german citites. well Hitler wasn't very happy about it and ordered G
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« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2007, 06:47:03 PM »
They didn't get most their planes from the US, they made them in England, the US wan't even in the war at that time, much less building stuff for them

And someone gave you american made documents with British experts?
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September 29, 2007, 06:50:38 PMReply #52

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« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2007, 06:50:38 PM »
and american experts and a few germans even. and USA did help gb before it entered the war. by delivering machine parts, selling aircrafts and other consumer goods.
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September 29, 2007, 06:54:17 PMReply #53

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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2007, 06:54:17 PM »
I know, but they didn't set up British plane factories, the British themselves made most their aircraft
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« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2007, 06:55:32 PM »
from american made parts. but you are right. it's wrong to say americans made the planes.
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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2007, 07:02:12 PM »
Then why did the germans try to destroy BEF from air? it would have been very stupid if the British had had manny planes over Dunkirk. And the RAF wasn't building enough planes. the got many of those from USA. and had the germans keep destroying the fields like they were the RAF would have been forced to retreat to Scotland. And that info was given to me by american made documents were had many british experts in them. I don't knoiw what they have taught you but you should check all angels and not just simply assuming that everything what is told to you in school history lessonsis true. And remeber most importantly: History is ALWAYS winners history.
they tried to destroy the BEF from the air because of some British commanders notgetting their act together. the RAF gave very little cover while they were in Belgium, but only because of the leadership. by dunkirk, however, the RAF were providing Air cover.

their is obviously a difference in opinion between our two sources because although i acknowledge that the Americans made some of the parts the RAF needed, a lot more was made in Britain. America mainly provided the money needed.

also, my sources say that on average it took just 3 days for a runway to be completely fixed and fully operational after a heavy Luftwaffe bombing raid, hardly enough to force us to Scotland.

my sources are a mixture of War Veteran testimonies from German and British soldiers, as well as History books and good old wikipedia

i do try and explore all angles, and will only argue a point after that process has finished. if isee something to persuade me otherwise, i will change sides. oh, and thats my quote...thief :P
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« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2007, 07:04:45 PM »
but germans were bombing runways daily. they wouldn't wait for three days so that it could be fixed. and the reason why Luftwaffe wasn't able to destroy BEF in Dunkirk was that their bombs didn't blow in the soft shore sand.
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« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2007, 07:06:05 PM »
And the runways were'nt the only problem, also the fuel depos, ammunition stores, communication and radar towers and hangars took a lot longer to fix at the airfields
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September 29, 2007, 07:29:39 PMReply #58

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« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2007, 07:29:39 PM »
yep. RAf couldn't have won the battle without the boming of cities. so it's always said that how dreadful it was. but it also saved GB.
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« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2007, 07:41:30 PM »
I agree, Hitler was a retard for that one
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