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Meyer · « **Reply #20 on:** September 26, 2007, 09:01:33 AM »

that's what? 660 kph?

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2007, 06:50:05 PM »

No idea, but the me 262 could hit 415 and the me 163 could hit like just over 590 (mph)

Meyer · « **Reply #22 on:** September 27, 2007, 01:11:33 AM »

but you have to remember that ME-163 was a rocket propelled plane, not jet.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 27, 2007, 10:02:05 PM »

Fine, but the 262 was faster

Meyer · « **Reply #24 on:** September 28, 2007, 02:22:09 AM »

ME-163 could get over 1000 kph in dives. but even with faster speed it was inferior to ME-262 because it had an operation time of about 5 min.

s-t-n · « **Reply #25 on:** September 28, 2007, 04:35:55 AM »

i say the good old fashioned spitfire. pwned the Germans in Battle of Britain.

Meyer · « **Reply #26 on:** September 28, 2007, 06:17:30 AM »

but it was inferior to german planes that entered the war later.

Slornie · « **Reply #27 on:** September 28, 2007, 06:23:57 AM »

Maybe, but it isnt just the hardware that is important..

Meyer · « **Reply #28 on:** September 28, 2007, 06:54:26 AM »

yep. pilots count too. and germans had the best pilots. no one can claim otherwise.

s-t-n · « **Reply #29 on:** September 28, 2007, 10:00:58 AM »

so...the german pilots were better....they out numbered the Brit Fighters at least 3:1 in most battles....and they had better planes...yet im not speaking German. am i missing something?

Meyer · « **Reply #30 on:** September 28, 2007, 10:31:17 AM »

well maybe the fact that it was because off bomber losses germans gave up. if one fighter penetrates the defending ones it can do great damage in tight bomber formations. plus the fact that german fighters had small range at that time. they din't have fuel for long time of dogfighting. and the fact that germans had better pilots is true.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 28, 2007, 11:35:00 AM »

not neccesarily, just maybe more amazing ones

Meyer · « **Reply #32 on:** September 28, 2007, 12:00:09 PM »

well if they weren't better than allied pilots who did they achieve so much more victories?

s-t-n · « **Reply #33 on:** September 28, 2007, 12:05:07 PM »

they didnt...whenever the RAF was about, the germans NEVER could get Air superiority, unless of course there was absolutly no allied ground forces.

for example, the Battles near Malta. the RAF fighters launched from there were such a pain to the Axis war machine in Africa they allocated a ridiculous amount of forces in an attempt to blockade Malta and make them run out of fuel for the fighters. yet the RAF always kept the Axis forces out of a perimeter around Malta.

Kratas · « **Reply #34 on:** September 28, 2007, 12:29:01 PM »

i knew the RAF were good but WOW

Meyer · « **Reply #35 on:** September 28, 2007, 12:49:40 PM »

but on Malta they met mostly Italian fighters and pilots. and if RAF always had air superiority, where were they in 1940 when Wehrmacht stormed through France undisturbed? No RAF planes to protect. And Luftwaffe had air superiority in France all the way to 1942 when usaaf came to Europe to aid RAF. without americas help RAF would never have been able to defeat Luftwaffe. it was american parts that were used to repair british planes so that they were able to fight again in battle of britain. Only air force worse than RAF in WWII was propably Italian AF. but I'm not counting air units that came from NZ, Canada or Australia.

Kratas · « **Reply #36 on:** September 28, 2007, 12:58:04 PM »

teh uk was severely outnumbered and what happened in your country poland isnt it at least we could protect our borders

s-t-n · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2007, 12:58:54 PM »

in 1940 ground units pulled out before the RAF, they stayed to give cover, which is why i said as long as there were ground forces.

same with when France was occupied by Germans. no point attackin, because no ground forces.

and for your final point, who was flying them? Brits.

Meyer · « **Reply #38 on:** September 28, 2007, 02:00:29 PM »

and volunteers from usa, canada and some other countries. and in 1940 what cover did RAf give? there wasn't planes in france if you don't count few individual ones. and what was the point of attacking german cities if it is pointless without the ground forces? you bombed those cities from 1939 onward and first ground units came 1944.

Quote from: Commander Kratas on September 28, 2007, 12:58:04 PM

teh uk was severely outnumbered and what happened in your country poland isnt it at least we could protect our borders

what do you mean? No understand.

s-t-n · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2007, 02:18:39 PM »

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and in 1940 what cover did RAf give? there wasn't planes in france

the planes were there giving the ground forces cover as they retreated, actually. read about Dunkirk.

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