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September 04, 2013, 04:08:19 PMReply #720

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #720 on: September 04, 2013, 04:08:19 PM »
But for units they only have ISD and VSD models, Thrustships, and Trifoils in space; and AT-ATs, AT-STs, and infantry on ground. That would be pretty boring. Try to add more units and it becomes a carbon copy of the IR.

As one of the very die hard proponents for adding the Yevethans to a GC as playable, I would love to see more of them but that said I do agree more unit diversity on their part would be better than just adding them into a GC that already has 3 factions.
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September 04, 2013, 04:22:27 PMReply #721

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #721 on: September 04, 2013, 04:22:27 PM »
Or it becomes another EoTH, designing basically an entire faction from the ground up because there is little canon information about them.
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September 04, 2013, 09:42:38 PMReply #722

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #722 on: September 04, 2013, 09:42:38 PM »
If the Yevethans may be limited but there is potential for greatness there if it could be done. Maybe some pirate ships Interceptor V comes to mind from FoC.

If Yevethans are too limited and hard to work with then I'd to bring up the Hutts again. I mean the Empire was reluctant to do war with them, and even during the Republic's hay day they didn't want to mess with them. There are Hutt units already made idk... It'd be an interesting addition...

September 04, 2013, 10:35:32 PMReply #723

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« Reply #723 on: September 04, 2013, 10:35:32 PM »
If the Yevethans may be limited but there is potential for greatness there if it could be done. Maybe some pirate ships Interceptor V comes to mind from FoC.

If Yevethans are too limited and hard to work with then I'd to bring up the Hutts again. I mean the Empire was reluctant to do war with them, and even during the Republic's hay day they didn't want to mess with them. There are Hutt units already made idk... It'd be an interesting addition...

I think the Yevethan's are limited due to Bantam kinda lame ducking them in the BFC novels and then the world forgetting they existed until being made extinct by the Yuuzhan Vong-OFF SCREEN(or chapter) to add insult to injury!

As to the Hutts, believe me it wasn't military prowess that kept the Empire at bay. They made deals and were often intermediaries for many imperial deals and contracts. The Empire didn't need to conquer them, they weren't a danger to the Empire, they were helpful in a number of ways and the Empire also got a cut of the profits as long as they looked the other way. If Emperor Palpatine had wanted to he could have ravaged Hutt space as easily as he did the rest of the galaxy. If there was a sabotage and political aspect to the game that offered manipulation, bribery and extortion as a means of maintaining a Criminal Godfather like shadow empire then adding them would make sense. As it is there's really no justification to do so. Also they WERE in earlier versions, and aside from being basically cannon fodder for the other factions really brought nothing new or desirable to the table.
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September 05, 2013, 11:06:21 AMReply #724

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #724 on: September 05, 2013, 11:06:21 AM »
agreed.
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September 06, 2013, 05:10:49 PMReply #725

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #725 on: September 06, 2013, 05:10:49 PM »

How bout dropping the T1 Tank for the Mon Cal heavy gunner! The T1 is pretty useless really, the T2 and up are better.

That's the T3-B you're thinking of, the T1-B has a flak pod. (BTW, can we put a shield bar on those?) The 3B and 4B are the ones currently indistinguishable. The problem is, since unit stats are based on canon, there's no way to change this (give the T-3B torpedoes/shields/anti-infantry cannons/whatever).

As for your suggestion, I do think the NR could use a unit like the E-Web. Making said unit a Calamari/Bothan/Wookiee/whatever has no practical purpose, however, which is what I believe Corey has said on the matter.

I would at this point like to make a few suggestions:
  • Reskin the PLEX troops and possibly Sergeants. The fancy new outfits of the Trooper and Infiltrator are rather dissonant with the old-school PLEX uniforms. Also, terrain-based skins for all and not just the PLEX?
  • Wookiees. What I'm thinking is similar to what RAW did: a couple of squads of Wookiees, available only at Kashyyyk, several times more expensive than Troopers and in smaller numbers, but just better.
  • More natives, if you're able to skin them. If Ithor is in the mod, why not have Ithorians? If Duro is available, why not Duros? Yvethan or Hapan natives in their clusters. And so on. There are a myriad of ways to adjust for the particular attributes of a species: this one's faster, that one has better gunpower, that other one is more durable, etc.
  • Minor factions: developed AIs and possibly mining facilities. I get that they're "minor", but no faction attacking me should be a pushover. The Yvetha in particular suffer a problem in BFC: if the Republic's lines hold, the Yvetha, unable to replace their losses, are in trouble. Ditto the Hapans.
  • Just curious, but what's the plan for the Pentastar FTGU? Will it be the same map in a separate GC file, or something else?
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September 06, 2013, 07:23:17 PMReply #726

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #726 on: September 06, 2013, 07:23:17 PM »
Had an idea on how to make Chariots useful: give them a build limit of say 5
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September 06, 2013, 07:54:38 PMReply #727

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #727 on: September 06, 2013, 07:54:38 PM »
Just fyi there were a few instances where Palpatine in comics and novels had mentioned that warring with the Hutts would cripple the Empire. The Hutts have planetary life debts from 3 separate races that would fight to the last sentient in their name, the Vodrans, Weequey, and one other that escapes Me right now.

I just thought that a Mon Cal EWEB would be cool because it gives a little diversity, and to honor the contributions of the Mon Cal, also because so many pics Ive found show Mon Cal with heavy weapons, so I assume they had experience with heavy weapons. Made sense, but a regular EWEB trooper for the NR works just as good.

The T1B is super useless... It's like Lukes land speeder with a cannon... I kill them with Infantry for Yoda's sake! Lol.

Reskin of Civy units like Ithorians is not gonna happen, or Duros etc. However I would like Wookiees but thats been shot down a ton already lol.

How bout having Warlords as a playable faction in some GC's?

September 06, 2013, 07:57:17 PMReply #728

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #728 on: September 06, 2013, 07:57:17 PM »
I like the Chariots idea... Very interesting...

September 06, 2013, 09:03:56 PMReply #729

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #729 on: September 06, 2013, 09:03:56 PM »
I like the Chariots idea... Very interesting...

Sorry, the forums keep cutting off my posts. What I said was to give them a build limit and make them like field commanders.
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September 06, 2013, 09:56:42 PMReply #730

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #730 on: September 06, 2013, 09:56:42 PM »
Still think the Hutts would have been mowed down by the Empire, I mean they were annihilated on the side by the Vong with little difficulty.
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September 07, 2013, 09:59:39 PMReply #731

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #731 on: September 07, 2013, 09:59:39 PM »
Adding the field commander trait makes it even better! That would make Chariots pretty useful.

The Vong kicked everyone's a$$ pretty easy, whether it was Republic, Empire, Hutt, etc. they killed trillions, so that doesn't say much lol. God I hate the Vong so friggin much. Just horrible Idea, so horrible... The Ssi'ruk would have been a much more interesting invading force with their intechment capabilities... ANYTHING would have been better than the Vong! I love Ewoks and Gungans more than the Vong! Just... horrible...

I hate whiny little Cade Skywalker too...

Anyhoo, I realized that I may be the only hard core NR fan lol. Seems like everyone else like the Imp factions more.

September 07, 2013, 10:19:09 PMReply #732

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #732 on: September 07, 2013, 10:19:09 PM »
How bout making spec ops units more multi-purpose, making them more like spec ops teams would be. I.E. Teams of three instead of two for one, each with a different weapon, sniper, heavy blaster, and missiles so they can fight infantry and tanks. This would be for all spec ops NR, IR, PA, etc. 

September 12, 2013, 05:31:52 PMReply #733

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #733 on: September 12, 2013, 05:31:52 PM »
I've been playing a lot using teams of Spec Ops units Republic Commandos, Storm Commandos etc. and I really think they should definitely be reworked. Yeah they're great for scouting, and sniping Infantry, but that's it. I think they should be upped to teams of three maybe even four, with a sniper, heavy repeating blaster, and a PLEX equipped member. This would be for each factions Spec Ops and would make them way more useful and able to hold their own against infantry and vehicles, even Jedi/Dark Jedi better.

Not only would it make the teams more interesting, and multi-purpose, they'd be more like real Spec Ops units, and more like the units in comics etc. most notable the Rebel/NR units they've showed with multiple weaponry. A medic in the unit may be cool too.

September 12, 2013, 06:48:09 PMReply #734

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #734 on: September 12, 2013, 06:48:09 PM »
Anyhoo, I realized that I may be the only hard core NR fan lol. Seems like everyone else like the Imp factions more.
I like the NR as well; Imperial's are overrated ^^

September 12, 2013, 11:09:20 PMReply #735

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #735 on: September 12, 2013, 11:09:20 PM »
I like the NR as well; Imperial's are overrated ^^

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September 13, 2013, 07:49:37 AMReply #736

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #736 on: September 13, 2013, 07:49:37 AM »
This is easily the worst thing I've ever seen you post.
Just what I needed in the morning. But this is a suggestion thread, so I might as well make a suggestion: We all know that boarding ships is possible(No, this will not be another suggestion to add boarding enemy ships into the game thing), but I was thinking that fighter heroes and transport heroes should be able to board friendly capital ships. For instance, Let's say for the combat bonus or for whatever reason, I bring Mothma along with my fleet. There are only two ways I can bring Mothma into battle: either by not putting any units in the first ship slot and letting the game decided which ships to put in(also putting Mothma in a ship), or putting her in the first slot and she warpes in as a transport. Not being able to choose your fleet can very well hinder you and will make the battle more drawn out, but leaving her in a transport risks her that much more. Before this is shot down, I just want to clarify that only transport heroes, like Mothma, and fighter heroes, like Luke and Corran Horn, would be able to do this.

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #737 on: September 13, 2013, 09:14:14 PM »
Good idea, I like it.
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September 14, 2013, 03:32:09 PMReply #738

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #738 on: September 14, 2013, 03:32:09 PM »
I concur that is a great idea, especially since I just used Luke and Corran in a battle, and lost Corran to the 181st Tie Squadron lmao!

How bout that Spec Ops idea I have up yonder ^... It's pretty good I think... MAY not be shot down :D

September 15, 2013, 05:28:00 AMReply #739

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Re: Suggestions for 2.1
« Reply #739 on: September 15, 2013, 05:28:00 AM »
I just want to clarify that I'm thinking that it would somewhat like transports do: with right click to go and the right click on the transport or a click on the unit icon to get out :).

 

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