Author Topic: 2.0 wish list (Read 50008 times)

Lucinator · « **on:** February 20, 2012, 06:35:04 PM »

for things you want to see in 2.0

example:
I know that it has been suggested in another thread but could the NR get more fighters with torpedoes like the Xwing, Ewing and so on, they could be balanced to do less damage or fire less frequently to represent that they only have a single launcher with limited ammo. Also I would like to see buff for the K-wing seeing as they had two laser cannon turrets, and more hardpoints than any starfighter by far in the EU universe, I would especially like to see something to represent the ship busting large warhead missiles(t-33) mounted on the Kwing.
Also I would like to see a boost to the credit earning capabilities of mining facilities and tax agencies, I find them not very productive at getting the necessary credits needed for fleet development now that there are no defense fleets for planets.

Unit wish list
upgraded xwing in later era's
more ground units
a interdictor for the NR
fleet commanders/ground commanders

PS: thanks to the TR modding team for the best starwars mod out there.

Corey · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2012, 04:38:53 PM »

Quote from: Lucinator on February 20, 2012, 06:35:04 PM

upgraded xwing in later era's
a interdictor for the NR

There weren't any new X-Weing versions between Hoth and the XJ-Wings, the other starfighters they made were their upgrades, so that wouldn't really fit, and the hard part with interdictors is they didn't really have them. They already have one in the mod with Iillor in it, though.

Lucinator · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2012, 10:40:47 PM »

would like to see a unit based cash source.

This is due to the fact that you can only make so much money with planets and at times it becomes prohibitively expensive to maintain defense fleets so space based unit that adds cash to your economy will allow for more economic strategies to be used.

Senza · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2012, 10:57:29 PM »

Quote from: Corey on March 09, 2012, 04:38:53 PM

There weren't any new X-Weing versions between Hoth and the XJ-Wings, the other starfighters they made were their upgrades, so that wouldn't really fit, and the hard part with interdictors is they didn't really have them. They already have one in the mod with Iillor in it, though.

What about the CC-7700? I saw it used to be in the mod, I'm curious as to why it was removed. The NR could really use an interdictor to stop those accursed SSDs and Phalanxes from escaping lol.

Kalo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2012, 11:01:12 PM »

Quote from: Senza on March 30, 2012, 10:57:29 PM

What about the CC-7700? I saw it used to be in the mod, I'm curious as to why it was removed. The NR could really use an interdictor to stop those accursed SSDs and Phalanxes from escaping lol.

The teams general consensus is because it was bad.

Willhelm · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2012, 11:47:05 PM »

Quote from: Lucinator on March 30, 2012, 10:40:47 PM

would like to see a unit based cash source.

This is due to the fact that you can only make so much money with planets and at times it becomes prohibitively expensive to maintain defense fleets so space based unit that adds cash to your economy will allow for more economic strategies to be used.

Im interested in what you said lucinator, What kind of unit could even do that? what would it be? and that sounds like it could easily become way over powered

Slornie · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:56:22 AM »

Well there's always the Smuggler from vanilla EAW. I don't even remember if that is still in the mod or not.

Senza · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2012, 09:31:33 AM »

Quote from: Kalo on March 30, 2012, 11:01:12 PM

The teams general consensus is because it was bad.

Bad? Um, alright lol. [/confused]

Kalo · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2012, 10:50:29 AM »

Quote from: Senza on March 31, 2012, 09:31:33 AM

Bad? Um, alright lol. [/confused]

I'll elaborate a bit. Sorry about that Senza.

The team thinks the Ship design and texture is just awful. I myself disagree, I actually liked it a lot. But Corey, Enceladus, ETC. They all dislike it.

yutpaeksi · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2012, 01:06:26 PM »

I never liked the CC-7700 either, and it was always tiny and black and sometimes damn hard to see. However, the NR suffers greatly from the lack of interdictors. Perhaps they could be afford more opportunities to capture them in 2.0?

Senza · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2012, 01:26:46 PM »

Quote from: Kalo on March 31, 2012, 10:50:29 AM

I'll elaborate a bit. Sorry about that Senza.

The team thinks the Ship design and texture is just awful. I myself disagree, I actually liked it a lot. But Corey, Enceladus, ETC. They all dislike it.

I see, that makes sense!

Corey · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2012, 01:45:09 PM »

Quote from: Kalo on March 31, 2012, 10:50:29 AM

The team thinks the Ship design and texture is just awful. I myself disagree, I actually liked it a lot.

Did somebody hit you on the head really, really hard? Cause you might wanna get that checked out...

Slornie · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2012, 01:54:22 PM »

Quote from: yutpaeksi on March 31, 2012, 01:06:26 PM

I never liked the CC-7700 either, and it was always tiny and black and sometimes damn hard to see.

That's the whole point. The team disliked it so much that it was deliberately undersized so that people couldn't see it.

Senza · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2012, 01:56:10 PM »

Quote from: Slornie on March 31, 2012, 01:54:22 PM

That's the whole point. The team disliked it so much that it was deliberately undersized so that people couldn't see it.

ahahahahaha thats amazing

Lucinator · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2012, 05:01:18 PM »

still the nr needs some interdictors if you guys can find a model or create one the CC-2200_Interdictor_Cruiser could work, or just make up a ship (ie mon cal with a gravity well generator)

or allow the nr to build Immobilizer 418A which they canonically did.

tlmiller · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2012, 06:35:42 PM »

One thing I'd like to see for the Empire is the Enforcer class picket ship. Uses the same frame as the Vindicator and Immobilizer418, but was much better in battle performance than the Vindicator.

Was used during the Thrawn era, Kaine had given some to Thrawn.

I often find myself building Vindicators as defensive fleets to help out some of my less important planets that are surrounded by enemies, and while useful, they don't last long. Being better in every performance fashion than the Vindicator, these would be a great boon to defenses.

Senza · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2012, 07:29:41 PM »

Wouldn't that basically make the Vindicator useless though? They're essentially the same ship but with different internal components, aren't they? In that case, one could just rename the Vindicator and give it better stats :p

tlmiller · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2012, 07:35:55 PM »

Quote from: Senza on April 05, 2012, 07:29:41 PM

Wouldn't that basically make the Vindicator useless though? They're essentially the same ship but with different internal components, aren't they? In that case, one could just rename the Vindicator and give it better stats :p

You could also make it slightly more expensive (since it takes labor to re-do the entire power plumbing of a 600 meter vessel, I'm sure).

Just like there is the Victory and Victory II, while the Victory II might be better, it's also more expensive and sometimes you won't have the resources to create something a bit more expensive, regardless of how minor the difference in cost.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:02:56 PM »

Strategic ships on a budget eh?

yutpaeksi · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2012, 01:51:01 AM »

I dunno about the Enforcer, I've never built a single Vindicator, they seem utterly worthless in comparison to strike cruisers and ViSDs...A beefed up version of it doesn't seem to add to the Imperial fleet. If anything the IR has too many ships that serve a lot of the same functions as it is.

I also used to want to lobby hard for the NR to get an interdictor but I've recently changed my mind. For one thing, the AI almost never withdraws anymore, they tend to fight to the death, or if they do try to withdraw, it's often too late and you can wreck the engines on their larger ships. The only time this seems to matter is when facing SSDs. It IS annoying when the Lusankya is down to like 3 turbolasers and it gets away at the last second. But in those instances, you have the Corusca rainbow, or against Zsinj you do get Dominators. The one thing I'd recommend is offering Immobilizers and Dominators as capture rewards instead, especially vs things like a Dreadnaught cruiser or an infantry platoon.

This also further establishes the NR as more of a keeper of the peace. They're better suited for driving off opposing fleets or defending rather than going out and smashing other people's fleets (I'm not saying this makes sense at all in terms of gameplay, but as some sort of morality if you want to look at it that way).

And also, I don't believe the NR built a single Immobilizer. They later on built Star Destroyers with concealed gravity well projectors, but those are outside the scope of the mod and the Mon Mothma and Elegos Akla were never fully detailed anyway.