Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Meyer on November 08, 2007, 01:49:20 AM
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What makes people to star a killing spree in school?
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mental instability. They are deranged.
or being american lol. JOKING
last year, werent there 6 school shootings in 1 week in the USA?
i hear finland had their first on my other EAW forum.
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depends. do you count that as a school shooting when one boy shoots two boys he hates in revenge? It is nothing like those usual shootings in usa when the gunmen just shoots everyone they see. if you don't count that one explained up there yes that was our first shooting. And no one saw it coming. We are taking too much of an example from usa.
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i guess.
i normally think of a school shooting as a massacre of students.
its hard to distinguish between a killing for your reason, and a school shooting. i guess shootings are slightly more organised normally.
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define organized. Every school shooting I know haven't had any special targets. the shooter/s go to school and kill as many people they can and finally commit suicide.
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i heard about those finland shootings on news
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organised- planned in advace. in some way. not decided minutes before it happens.
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Meyer what do you mean you take the USA's directions? that is a stupid idiotic thing to say, i am an American and just because you have a school shooting doesn't mean you are taking our direction. Just admit it, Finland is far from perfect your country is messed up too. that doesn't mean we are the cause of your problems. your citizens committed the shooting end of story leave America out of it, unless you are talking about school shootings as a whole, don't blame your shootings on us.
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what I meant was that some indiciduals are taking example from usa. Auvinen for example admired the shooters of columbine and virginia. Without those shootings would this have happened? maybe, maybe not we can't never know. And yes Finland isn't perfect country. no country is. but we have something better here than usa. Finland has the third highest gun ownership in the world and still this was the first major school shooting in our history. And there was that Myyrmanni bomb strike few years back. more resemblance from usa and other western countries were terrorist make bomb strikes. but I would see that this bomb strike relates much to the Oklahoma bomb attack as both were done by people who were born and raised in the country they then bombed and neither was muslim. Now we just wait for planes to come down or maybe we see Estonia as a threat to our security and attack it in the name of peace and liberty.
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ya i am not saying we are perfect either we have our own issues. but our population is a lot larger then yours so of course our ratio would be higher. stop blaming them getting their ideas from us. in the end they chose to do it plain and simple.
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yep. I didn't blame you. I said that we are taking an example of usa. you have had the most school shootings in world. and the most deadliest. I didn't say it is usas fault. but the fact remains that Auvinen did get the idea from usa and that he admired the school shooters of columbine and virginia. without those shootings would he have gotten the idea? I doubt it. school shooting is something that is not done in finland. And when I say that he got example from usa, don't come and say that he didn't if he (Auvinen) said it himself in his writings on the internet. and that fact that usa has the highest gun ownership in the world has nothing to do with the number of murders and shooting done. The problem is in the people as you said yourself.
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one week, america had 6 school shootings. i propportionately, russia would of had a third the school shootings of UA, but it doesn't. i think the last major one was the chechnya schoold shooting about 3 years ago, and there may have been one more recent one. america, on the other hand, have at least one a year, probably more. all the school shooting that have happened outside of usa. i doubt its even half of the number in the USA. oh well, at least this time next year, bush wont be president. hopefully, there will be someone with the sense to reinforce gun ownership laws.
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tightening the gun laws won't propably help.
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vader r u american? cause if ur not then shut up. im tired of everyone flaming us and our president. express your opinion once thats all it takes.
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Typical american. Orders everyone who isn't an american to shut up. and with what right may I ask? And if truth hurts too bad.
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Hmm...If I had a guess it would be overstress. Being totally stressed out can screw with your mind massively.
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it might not help, but it will make it harder for them to get guns, and so, there will be less trouble with them, but they may just start up school stabbings lol.
junot, you are an idiot if you think bus was a good president. Worst president ever. america needs a president who isnt republican. and no, im english, junot. you probably know me as that guy from the country with all the stupid liberals (i myself am left wing. im satirising you.) what good has bush done?
iraq- hmm completely destabilised a country, which had NO Weapons of mass destruction, and although it had a bad dictator, it wasnt justified. it was for oil, and only oil. now Iraq has a fragile democracy, which will undoubtedly collapse as soon as troops move out. Bush has put Iraq into a stalemate. Killing terrorists won't stop terrorism. They are going to die either way. do you really think a terrorist will not be a suicide bomber because americans might kill him? bush has done nothing but badness to America. And i dont hate america. i congratulate the blue states for being against bush! at least there are Americans who are Anti-Bush (unlike you)
typical americans= racist, elitist creationist idiots (well at least junot is portraying himself like that)
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Its the Democrats who let the ban on automatic weapons expire
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Anyhow, discussing America and politics arent the subject of this thread..
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could someone cause a school shooting just for fun? If they're really messed up in the head then maybe they could.
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I just love how a school shooting happens in Finland, and then you start blaming the US
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my point exactly scarecrow...i never said bush was a good president, but in the same respect i dont really care what your political views are, point is your opinion of my president hasn't counted since 1776. i am just wondering exactly what scarecrow is, if u have a school shooting why is it automatically america's fault?
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it might not help, but it will make it harder for them to get guns, and so, there will be less trouble with them, but they may just start up school stabbings lol.
junot, you are an idiot if you think bus was a good president. Worst president ever. america needs a president who isnt republican. and no, im english, junot. you probably know me as that guy from the country with all the stupid liberals (i myself am left wing. im satirising you.) what good has bush done?
iraq- hmm completely destabilised a country, which had NO Weapons of mass destruction, and although it had a bad dictator, it wasnt justified. it was for oil, and only oil. now Iraq has a fragile democracy, which will undoubtedly collapse as soon as troops move out. Bush has put Iraq into a stalemate. Killing terrorists won't stop terrorism. They are going to die either way. do you really think a terrorist will not be a suicide bomber because americans might kill him? bush has done nothing but badness to America. And i dont hate america. i congratulate the blue states for being against bush! at least there are Americans who are Anti-Bush (unlike you)
typical americans= racist, elitist creationist idiots (well at least junot is portraying himself like that)
Killing terrorists wont stop terrorism? Please dont say we are racist. And, what was that thing that Bush handled so well? Seven-Eleven? Oh yeah, 9/11. Stalemate? Jan '07, 2500 deaths in Iraq, current just under a thousand. How do you know its a stalemate? Why do you hate Bush so much? I agree he has made a couple of mistakes in Iraq, he isn't that tough on illegal aliens, but that doesn't mean he is an idiot or incompetent.
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my point exactly scarecrow...i never said bush was a good president, but in the same respect i dont really care what your political views are, point is your opinion of my president hasn't counted since 1776. i am just wondering exactly what scarecrow is, if u have a school shooting why is it automatically america's fault?
Wait, what? That makes no sense?
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I just love how a school shooting happens in Finland, and then you start blaming the US
When have I said that it was usas fault? I said taking example from there. if it is anyones fault it is the shooters fault. Are you so stupid that you think I'm accusing a country that has over 300 million inhabitants for an acts of few individuals? And the examples come from usa if the killer said it himself that he admired the shooters of columbine and virginia. those are in usa aren't they?
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when you said that they got their ideas and inspiration from the usa shootings, that is implying blame...scarecrow i agreed with ur point then after the ... was directed at vader, then i agreed with you again at the end
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its not like if you kill enough terrorists before doing their damage, terrorists will eventually give up.
9/11? god you americans are obsessed with that. us british barely even care about 7/7/ 2 years on. yes, the death toll is different, but people still died, and that is what matterted.
Junot, they admitted it in some way! there is nothing to argue! America arent to blame! the columbine shooters and the more recent one are to blame! not you!
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Right, terrorism, politics, and flaming people/governments are not the subject of this thread. If we dont get back on topic and keep this civil, its getting locked.
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if I'm not mistaken all or at least most of these shooters liked shooting games, for example the GTA series. Do you think that playing that kind of games increases the possibility of player to become a killer/school shooter?
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no.
if all people who played gta killed peopkle, it would be a serious problem.
perhaps if they had some mental instability, they would.
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I agree. but still games are always blamed if someone who has played them that it's games fault. I think games prevent people from becoming murders.
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yeah. i mean i have been disgusted by some games.
i was bored and looked up "worst games" on wikipedia.
one of the games was a game where you either play a nazi killing Jews, or play a KKK member killing black people.
that disgusted me. if someone kills specifically black peple or jews and have played that game, then that game is t o blame for the reason that it is a racist game which specifically lets you commit genocide. its not like GTA is like that.
OK, well you can drive around if youre messed up enough killing only certain races or gangs, but its not like they intended for you to.
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i agree it is not the games fault it is just some people trying to justify a reason that a shooter would have done that
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yes if so id of killed everyone i know
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ame.
games are accountable for many things, ut not murder, unless there is specific evidence.
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its the dumb idiots that do these things cus of games
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Compare the number of people who play videogames (basically every kid in the developed world) to those that do this kinda thing, its obvious that the videogames aren't the problem
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thats true ive been playing video games for 5 years 1 year i only had a gameboy so i guess that dousnt count but for 4 years had a ps2 and now getting a 360 and ive never had a thought about killin people for real
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people feel good blaming their mad child's cravings on something. stopds them from feeling like bad arents and stops them from thinking they have an insane son.
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and it makes it so those 'doctors' on tv afterwards sound smart by blaming something
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ive never had a thought about killin people for real
Never? I've dreamed about killing real people many times. but then I play GTA or some other shooting game and those thoughts and dreams go away.
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Turns out that guy from Finland was helping some kid in Pennsylvania plan his own shooting, somehow he got caught though before he did anything
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thank gpd he was.
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yeah. i think Kratas meant hed never had a serious thought about killing people.
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although ive had thoughts about really heavy stuff falling through the ceiling/roof thus killing them but thats only people i really really hate theres only 1
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now the guy they caught is saying he never planned on actually doing it, for some reason i doubt it