Author Topic: School shootings (Read 15338 times)

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 09, 2007, 07:43:00 PM »

I just love how a school shooting happens in Finland, and then you start blaming the US

junot · « **Reply #21 on:** November 09, 2007, 08:27:12 PM »

my point exactly scarecrow...i never said bush was a good president, but in the same respect i dont really care what your political views are, point is your opinion of my president hasn't counted since 1776. i am just wondering exactly what scarecrow is, if u have a school shooting why is it automatically america's fault?

GrndAdmrlPellaeon · « **Reply #22 on:** November 09, 2007, 08:36:45 PM »

Quote from: vadereclipse on November 09, 2007, 02:50:06 PM

it might not help, but it will make it harder for them to get guns, and so, there will be less trouble with them, but they may just start up school stabbings lol.
junot, you are an idiot if you think bus was a good president. Worst president ever. america needs a president who isnt republican. and no, im english, junot. you probably know me as that guy from the country with all the stupid liberals (i myself am left wing. im satirising you.) what good has bush done?
iraq- hmm completely destabilised a country, which had NO Weapons of mass destruction, and although it had a bad dictator, it wasnt justified. it was for oil, and only oil. now Iraq has a fragile democracy, which will undoubtedly collapse as soon as troops move out. Bush has put Iraq into a stalemate. Killing terrorists won't stop terrorism. They are going to die either way. do you really think a terrorist will not be a suicide bomber because americans might kill him? bush has done nothing but badness to America. And i dont hate america. i congratulate the blue states for being against bush! at least there are Americans who are Anti-Bush (unlike you)

typical americans= racist, elitist creationist idiots (well at least junot is portraying himself like that)

Killing terrorists wont stop terrorism? Please dont say we are racist. And, what was that thing that Bush handled so well? Seven-Eleven? Oh yeah, 9/11. Stalemate? Jan '07, 2500 deaths in Iraq, current just under a thousand. How do you know its a stalemate? Why do you hate Bush so much? I agree he has made a couple of mistakes in Iraq, he isn't that tough on illegal aliens, but that doesn't mean he is an idiot or incompetent.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 09, 2007, 10:15:16 PM »

Quote from: junot on November 09, 2007, 08:27:12 PM

my point exactly scarecrow...i never said bush was a good president, but in the same respect i dont really care what your political views are, point is your opinion of my president hasn't counted since 1776. i am just wondering exactly what scarecrow is, if u have a school shooting why is it automatically america's fault?

Wait, what? That makes no sense?

Meyer · « **Reply #24 on:** November 10, 2007, 01:11:42 AM »

Quote from: Scarecrow63 on November 09, 2007, 07:43:00 PM

I just love how a school shooting happens in Finland, and then you start blaming the US

When have I said that it was usas fault? I said taking example from there. if it is anyones fault it is the shooters fault. Are you so stupid that you think I'm accusing a country that has over 300 million inhabitants for an acts of few individuals? And the examples come from usa if the killer said it himself that he admired the shooters of columbine and virginia. those are in usa aren't they?

junot · « **Reply #25 on:** November 10, 2007, 04:51:35 AM »

when you said that they got their ideas and inspiration from the usa shootings, that is implying blame...scarecrow i agreed with ur point then after the ... was directed at vader, then i agreed with you again at the end

vadereclipse · « **Reply #26 on:** November 10, 2007, 05:05:15 AM »

its not like if you kill enough terrorists before doing their damage, terrorists will eventually give up.
9/11? god you americans are obsessed with that. us british barely even care about 7/7/ 2 years on. yes, the death toll is different, but people still died, and that is what matterted.

Junot, they admitted it in some way! there is nothing to argue! America arent to blame! the columbine shooters and the more recent one are to blame! not you!

Slornie · « **Reply #27 on:** November 10, 2007, 07:07:50 AM »

Right, terrorism, politics, and flaming people/governments are not the subject of this thread. If we dont get back on topic and keep this civil, its getting locked.

Meyer · « **Reply #28 on:** November 10, 2007, 08:35:15 AM »

if I'm not mistaken all or at least most of these shooters liked shooting games, for example the GTA series. Do you think that playing that kind of games increases the possibility of player to become a killer/school shooter?

vadereclipse · « **Reply #29 on:** November 10, 2007, 09:31:06 AM »

no.
if all people who played gta killed peopkle, it would be a serious problem.
perhaps if they had some mental instability, they would.

Meyer · « **Reply #30 on:** November 10, 2007, 10:19:50 AM »

I agree. but still games are always blamed if someone who has played them that it's games fault. I think games prevent people from becoming murders.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #31 on:** November 10, 2007, 12:08:00 PM »

yeah. i mean i have been disgusted by some games.
i was bored and looked up "worst games" on wikipedia.
one of the games was a game where you either play a nazi killing Jews, or play a KKK member killing black people.
that disgusted me. if someone kills specifically black peple or jews and have played that game, then that game is t o blame for the reason that it is a racist game which specifically lets you commit genocide. its not like GTA is like that.
OK, well you can drive around if youre messed up enough killing only certain races or gangs, but its not like they intended for you to.

junot · « **Reply #32 on:** November 10, 2007, 12:53:36 PM »

i agree it is not the games fault it is just some people trying to justify a reason that a shooter would have done that

Kratas · « **Reply #33 on:** November 10, 2007, 01:01:34 PM »

yes if so id of killed everyone i know

vadereclipse · « **Reply #34 on:** November 11, 2007, 10:28:17 AM »

ame.
games are accountable for many things, ut not murder, unless there is specific evidence.

Kratas · « **Reply #35 on:** November 11, 2007, 02:01:57 PM »

its the dumb idiots that do these things cus of games

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 12, 2007, 03:45:46 PM »

Compare the number of people who play videogames (basically every kid in the developed world) to those that do this kinda thing, its obvious that the videogames aren't the problem

Kratas · « **Reply #37 on:** November 12, 2007, 04:56:34 PM »

thats true ive been playing video games for 5 years 1 year i only had a gameboy so i guess that dousnt count but for 4 years had a ps2 and now getting a 360 and ive never had a thought about killin people for real

vadereclipse · « **Reply #38 on:** November 12, 2007, 05:57:22 PM »

people feel good blaming their mad child's cravings on something. stopds them from feeling like bad arents and stops them from thinking they have an insane son.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 12, 2007, 06:38:00 PM »

and it makes it so those 'doctors' on tv afterwards sound smart by blaming something