Author Topic: Politicians and scandals (Read 21789 times)

Meyer · « **on:** March 13, 2008, 02:01:30 AM »

Few gays ago it was on the news that the governor of New York, Eliot Spitzer, had a sex-relationship with some prostitute. And now he apparently has resigned. Do you think that personal life affects peoples job? That because he had this scandal he can't be the governor anymore? And isn't everyone free to spend his/hers free time and personal life as they like? Should these sort of thing be left alone and never be brought to public?

Isamu · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2008, 02:15:33 AM »

i don't see why not. you can think whatever you want about a person who you see on tv. when you know about what they do when they think nobody is watching is when you see their true charachter and weather they are trustworthy. but something like sex with a prostitute, who gives a flying fuck about it. embezzling, theft, adultry, ect. those types of things i would want to know about. not that he nailed a cheap whore.

Meyer · « **Reply #2 on:** March 13, 2008, 02:23:50 AM »

my thoughts exactly. Except the adultery part. So many does it so why can't he. How does the fact that he does an adultery affect his work? But the press love it. vultures! but embezzling, theft and those sort of things I would like to know.

Slornie · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2008, 10:04:28 AM »

I dont give a damn what they do in their own time, unless its illegal.

I dont want to know if theyre having an affair, or if theyre going on holiday somewhere, etc.

Meyer · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2008, 10:12:33 AM »

I agree totally. I think media should be more discreet about these things. they just bring them up and have huge fuss about something unimportant.

Slornie · « **Reply #5 on:** March 13, 2008, 10:37:43 AM »

I could say the same about celebrities as well - I dont care who they are having a relationship with, what they are wearing (or not wearing as the case may be), where theyve visited, etc.

Corey · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2008, 12:33:37 PM »

In this case, at least, it is something that should be brought up. At least, it is justified that he has to resign. He spent most of his career sending people to jail for doing this exact thing, so now he gets to do it.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:19:21 PM »

i care if they are tories lol. (i don't like the conservative party)
however, in uk politics, other MPs would give the mp a hard time (especially if the mp is in cabinet) and the MP would inevitably resign. so, it's a hard one.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:25:44 PM »

Depends. If he/she is having marital problems, I don't care. If he is beating his wife, he needs to pay. End of story. If it doesn't break the law or is not immoral, I don't care.

Slornie · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:55:57 PM »

Quote from: vadereclipse on March 13, 2008, 03:19:21 PM

however, in uk politics, other MPs would give the mp a hard time (especially if the mp is in cabinet) and the MP would inevitably resign. so, it's a hard one.

You mean like that MP who claimed expenses for his son as a research assistant (with no evidence of this supposed research having taken place) - Didnt he only get a 10 day commons suspension? Such a hard time..

*Yes, i know that fiddling expenses is not the same as paying for a prostitute, but still.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:29:25 PM »

derek conway? (yes, i study politics)

Slornie · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:35:38 PM »

Quote from: vadereclipse on March 13, 2008, 04:29:25 PM

derek conway? (yes, i study politics)

Yeah, thats the one.

aNaRcHiSt44 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2008, 08:18:11 PM »

I think that the people who spend their lives devoted to studying other people's lives (ehem, THE MEDIA) have no lives of their own. They devote all their time to observing celebrities and models, and hence, they are socially inept people who cannot even take care of themselves, and they are warped by their jobs into dependant morons. I also think that if a celebrity does something unusual (such as hiring a prostitue), why should it matter? Just because they are in a position of power doesnt mean they cant do what they wish, right? This is another thing; how stupid the general population is of most countries. Most men hire a prostitute (or at least in America (grins malicously)) in their lives anyway and no-one cares, but when an important figure does it, suddenly the very people who hire prostitutes every week start protesting the person in question, saying that "Prostitution is evil", "Your corrupt and un-deserving of importance", etc, and they will support those protests openly whilst still hiring more prostitutes to vent their innane sexual lust. Because the Media is corrupt, it has swindled and converted the general populace into gullible morons that cannot think independantly and have to rely on the Media to supply false information to justify their own stupidity for allowing the Media to hold sway over them.
The bottom line is; if a politician is responsible for murder, do what you do to other people; pay him no mind and throw him in jail, and dont make such a big fuss about it.

junot · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2008, 03:42:00 AM »

it matters very much, prostitution is illegal, and he broke the law. you can't have someone uphold the law if they break their very oath to protect it. it makes no sense, regardless of his personal life. that is the price you pay when you enter politics. every facet of your life is examined, that doesnt make it right or fair, but since when has life been fair? and if i remember correctly Spitzer was a strong advocate of family life and very anti-prositutional (not sure if that is a word but oh well).

aNaRcHiSt44 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2008, 04:05:14 AM »

I know prostitution is illegal, but what I am trying to point out is that people don't care if say, their friends or family do it, but if someone in politics does it, bam! They hate them and start protesting. I also realize that life isnt fair, but then again, it is still idiotical and unnecessary to degrade other people so vehemetly whilst uncaring of other's doings.

Meyer · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2008, 07:04:40 AM »

and whole problem wouldn't even exist if prostitution would be legal. isn't nevada the only state where it is legal? and that seems to work fine.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2008, 11:54:41 AM »

as I said, as long as it isn't illegal, I don't care. If they want to have sex with everyone they can, they remain profesional at the office, and they are single, I don't care!

vadereclipse · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2008, 01:03:12 PM »

politicians in a democracy are ambassadors of the people. they represnt them. do you really want a man who has sex with prostitutes to be representing you?

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2008, 03:02:57 PM »

1. I don't think prostitution should be legal. If they both consent to do it, good for them. Also, it will never go away, it is the world's oldest profession.
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Meyer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2008, 03:35:59 PM »

Quote from: vadereclipse on March 14, 2008, 01:03:12 PM

politicians in a democracy are ambassadors of the people. they represnt them. do you really want a man who has sex with prostitutes to be representing you?

Well people voted him. And making those sort of things proves that they too are humans although it doesn't always seem like they are. Everyone has done something stupid. And as said few times earlier, their private life doesn't affect on their work.

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