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Do you support Kosovo's independence?

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February 22, 2008, 04:14:03 PMReply #20

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2008, 04:14:03 PM »
NORAD in general proved just how good it was on 9/11, so North America is pretty much screwed when something decides to fly at it.

NORAD didn't keep track of the hundreds of commercial flights flying within the US.....
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February 22, 2008, 04:39:20 PMReply #21

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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2008, 04:39:20 PM »
but they do now.
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February 22, 2008, 06:00:54 PMReply #22

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2008, 06:00:54 PM »
i would like to point out that mother Russia has very few nuclear weapons left. not enough to throw up a suggested "cloud" of warheads that would be unstoppable. also the reason i just found out that the motherland extended it's empire to serbia so there is a possibility that kosovo has hidden ex-soviet nukes.

They have plenty of nukes left... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons  :police:
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February 22, 2008, 06:36:41 PMReply #23

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2008, 06:36:41 PM »
Get your facts straight. And also..aircraft carriers are very f*cking important.


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February 22, 2008, 07:01:44 PMReply #24

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2008, 07:01:44 PM »
enceladus i happen to be from Mother Russia i think i would know. wikipedia is edited anyways. these facts are during the nuclear age not post nuclear.
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February 22, 2008, 07:42:06 PMReply #25

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2008, 07:42:06 PM »
Actually, the reference for Russia's nuclear armament is from a 2006 journal article (found here), which concerned current and projected future armament.
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February 22, 2008, 08:55:57 PMReply #26

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2008, 08:55:57 PM »
Wasn't Putin head of the KGB?
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February 22, 2008, 11:23:23 PMReply #27

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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2008, 11:23:23 PM »
Wasn't Putin head of the KGB?
(don't follow Russian politics that much, too busy worrying about my country to care much....)
He wasn't the head,  but he was a ranking member. And Isamu...sadly YOU ARE WRONG. They still have plenty of nukes within Russia. Also this is is not a post-nuclear age yet. And buddy...you're not the only one that has some heritage in Russia.


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February 23, 2008, 04:20:20 AMReply #28

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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2008, 04:20:20 AM »
according to that list Russia has more nukes than USA. but I think that USA has more modern nukes. But how did we come to this? From Kosovo and it's independence to the amount of nukes in Russia and USA. And also to debate whether carriers are important or not.
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February 23, 2008, 04:47:02 PMReply #29

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2008, 04:47:02 PM »
Wasn't Putin head of the KGB?
(don't follow Russian politics that much, too busy worrying about my country to care much....)
He wasn't the head,  but he was a ranking member. And Isamu...sadly YOU ARE WRONG. They still have plenty of nukes within Russia. Also this is is not a post-nuclear age yet. And buddy...you're not the only one that has some heritage in Russia.
okay you may have Russian heritage but did you live there? and most existing nukes controlled by ussr are tactical nuclear weapons. not like the massive ones that icbms deliver most people would think of. the same is also true for the united states.
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February 23, 2008, 04:54:08 PMReply #30

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2008, 04:54:08 PM »
In July of '07, it was estimated Russia had over 2000 ICBM warheads.....

And what does living in a country have anything to do with your knowledge of its nuclear stockpiles?
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February 23, 2008, 06:28:41 PMReply #31

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« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2008, 06:28:41 PM »
Wasn't Putin head of the KGB?
(don't follow Russian politics that much, too busy worrying about my country to care much....)
He wasn't the head,  but he was a ranking member. And Isamu...sadly YOU ARE WRONG. They still have plenty of nukes within Russia. Also this is is not a post-nuclear age yet. And buddy...you're not the only one that has some heritage in Russia.
okay you may have Russian heritage but did you live there? and most existing nukes controlled by ussr are tactical nuclear weapons. not like the massive ones that icbms deliver most people would think of. the same is also true for the united states.
Those are mroe than enough warheads to put the U.S.A back into the Stone Age. Their quality does not matter. Also alst time I heard...Putin doesn't reveal very much to the Russian public. Especially concerning the current status of their nuclear weapons.


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February 23, 2008, 07:17:23 PMReply #32

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« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2008, 07:17:23 PM »
it wouldn't take too many nukes to put any country to the 3rd world country rating. you just need to take out the top 5 or 6 major cities and the entire nation probably crumbles with it.
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February 23, 2008, 07:22:32 PMReply #33

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« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2008, 07:22:32 PM »
The "Stone Age" isnt the same as a "Third World" country.
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« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2008, 08:36:19 PM »
it wouldn't take too many nukes to put any country to the 3rd world country rating. you just need to take out the top 5 or 6 major cities and the entire nation probably crumbles with it.

I don't think 5 or 6 cities would crumble a nation.  First, the only thing a city is really good for is holding people, you would still have plenty of other cities to form a government in and still have all your farmland/natural resources.
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February 23, 2008, 10:18:41 PMReply #35

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« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2008, 10:18:41 PM »
By doing that and stopping there, all you'll REALLY do is piss off the locals and get them to fire THEIR nukes at you......
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February 23, 2008, 11:05:50 PMReply #36

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« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2008, 11:05:50 PM »
Wow, Kalo is pissed. Anyway, if you nuked New York, that would do serious damage to the US. Just saying, hitting the right cities does do some damage.
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February 24, 2008, 12:42:24 AMReply #37

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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2008, 12:42:24 AM »
How does losing New York do serious damage?
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February 24, 2008, 01:26:11 AMReply #38

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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2008, 01:26:11 AM »
I think that taking out the industry would do more harm than destroying cities. Industry and infrastructure are the key.
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February 24, 2008, 05:07:37 AMReply #39

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Re: Kosovo
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2008, 05:07:37 AM »
with all it's been through, kosovo deserves its independence. however, from a military point of view, it will pretty much always be a protectorate. it is barely larger than luxembourg, and if serbia attacks, i would  not be surprised if russia attacked. also, d
serbia is on the cusp of electing an ultra-right president who was a minister on milosevic's government. so i really do not know if is kosovo's time, not that i don't support its independence.

 

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