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September 16, 2016, 04:52:12 PM

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Heroes: ideas and changes.
« on: September 16, 2016, 04:52:12 PM »
I thought after watching a video on dark empire and I dare to ask
Does Lando Have the emancipator form that book? Would be cool to send in booster terick and lando in SDs.
Anyways like the starship thread we will talk about heroes, suggestions, and changes to the "Op ones".
so lets begin.
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September 17, 2016, 03:32:23 PMReply #1

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Re: Heroes: ideas and changes.
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 03:32:23 PM »
The Emancipator will be in the mod, however we will not be giving it to Lando or Wedge.
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September 17, 2016, 03:40:00 PMReply #2

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 03:40:00 PM »
The Emancipator will be in the mod, however we will not be giving it to Lando or Wedge.
so both the liberty and the Emancipator are being Add?
And if they are is who is commanding them?
I check Wookiepedia but was left confuse.
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September 17, 2016, 04:07:23 PMReply #3

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Re: Heroes: ideas and changes.
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 04:07:23 PM »
Which Liberty are you talking about? The one that was blown up at Endor was the only one of any real importance
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 05:29:25 PM »
Which Liberty are you talking about? The one that was blown up at Endor was the only one of any real importance
oppsss ment this
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liberator_(Imperial_I-class)
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September 18, 2016, 01:34:33 PMReply #5

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Re: Heroes: ideas and changes.
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 01:34:33 PM »
so both the liberty and the Emancipator are being Add?
And if they are is who is commanding them?
I check Wookiepedia but was left confuse.

I think the Emancipator was commanded by Admiral Ragab.

Also, what about Lieutenant Lon Donell for the Maldrood? After the Battle of Endor he turned to piracy and it's known that he sold ships to imperial opperatives. He could be a great addition to the Maldrood as he commanded the Immobilizer 418 Cruiser Detainer.

September 18, 2016, 03:21:12 PMReply #6

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 03:21:12 PM »
I think the Emancipator was commanded by Admiral Ragab.
he commanded the Immobilizer 418 Cruiser Detainer.
thanks.
Why do so many heroes like Immobilizers? They have crap weapons(except the cannon version which apparently can crush Mc80s) and limited fighter support.
Also could Melvar be a ground and space unit? maybe give him a Victory ll?
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September 18, 2016, 03:42:12 PMReply #7

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 03:42:12 PM »
Emancipator will be used by Kre'fay in one of the new campaigns we haven't announced yet. I doubt we'll use Liberator since the people associated with it tended to bounce around a lot and have other more important associations at any given time.

Also, what about Lieutenant Lon Donell for the Maldrood? After the Battle of Endor he turned to piracy and it's known that he sold ships to imperial opperatives. He could be a great addition to the Maldrood as he commanded the Immobilizer 418 Cruiser Detainer.

The problem with him for Maldrood is actually where he was; his homeworld is Prefsbelt IV, and he was operating out of Barpine, both of which were either squarely in Pentastar space, or at least along the Braxant Run, which is pretty far from Maldrood. I do agree he fits as someone they could recruit thematically, so if they're lacking he could definitely be considered as someone who you can recruit once you get to that area as Maldrood, although we'd need the resources to make his ship, so that would be lower priority.
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September 18, 2016, 03:59:15 PMReply #8

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 03:59:15 PM »
Emancipator will be used by Kre'fay in one of the new campaigns we haven't announced yet.
:) I think I know what your referring to. That bothan dude everyone hated and was head of state or something
Btw way also saw crimson Empire heroes. Are they coming as a GC campaign? :)
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September 18, 2016, 07:46:52 PMReply #9

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Re: Heroes: ideas and changes.
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2016, 07:46:52 PM »
Emancipator will be used by Kre'fay in one of the new campaigns we haven't announced yet. I doubt we'll use Liberator since the people associated with it tended to bounce around a lot and have other more important associations at any given time.

The problem with him for Maldrood is actually where he was; his homeworld is Prefsbelt IV, and he was operating out of Barpine, both of which were either squarely in Pentastar space, or at least along the Braxant Run, which is pretty far from Maldrood. I do agree he fits as someone they could recruit thematically, so if they're lacking he could definitely be considered as someone who you can recruit once you get to that area as Maldrood, although we'd need the resources to make his ship, so that would be lower priority.

Understood, Corey.  ;)
If Kre'fey is commanding the Emancipator, then I guess the new campaign is the Corruscant one (Perhaps you can add the Bacta War to it?)
AdmiralTrawn2 Nope, that's Borsk Fey'lya, this is Laryn Kre'fey  :)

September 18, 2016, 09:02:52 PMReply #10

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2016, 09:02:52 PM »
Understood, Corey.  ;)
If Kre'fey is commanding the Emancipator, then I guess the new campaign is the Corruscant one (Perhaps you can add the Bacta War to it?)
AdmiralTrawn2 Nope, that's Borsk Fey'lya, this is Laryn Kre'fey  :)
Okay still wondering on what are the new campaigns.
I'm guessing camassi crisis and the crimson empire are happening. Most likely means Peallon will get the reaper as well.
As for The others?
Most likely a couple Warlord Themed ones.
we already know Final Imperial Push is being spread into 3 Gcs so
Any guess on Gcs and heros?
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September 18, 2016, 09:48:24 PMReply #11

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2016, 09:48:24 PM »
have the Imperial SSDs ( Reaper, Night Hammer,  Agressor) and Repubilc SSDs ( Lusankya Guardian) different Skin?

or the Same if the Exekutor has?

And can the Imperial Rest build Assertor Star Destroyers? ( i know, that the PA only can build Bellators )

September 18, 2016, 10:06:06 PMReply #12

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2016, 10:06:06 PM »
And can the Imperial Rest build Assertor Star Destroyers? ( i know, that the PA only can build Bellators )
Corey Already said NO to Assertors because they don't need anymore SSDs.
Now I the only I can see him Doing is giving Snackbar The guardian(but that would Give the New Republic TWO SSds.
Anyways rater have heroes on Frigates for diversity or ships like the night caller)
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September 20, 2016, 05:34:09 AMReply #13

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Re: Heroes: ideas and changes.
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 05:34:09 AM »
Great, Emancipator in mod.  8=)

What about add a few members of Leonia Tavira's invids group for Maldrood?
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September 20, 2016, 04:02:19 PMReply #14

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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 04:02:19 PM »
See I really don't want Maldrood to be just the terradoc brothers, and then a bunch of pirates.
Maybe a Gc focus on the core world we could have Harsk with Kosh because they allied.
or we could do something where we add trandosha and make it so they can recruit Moff Darcc or bossk(bossk would make more sense)
And we can use it as a way to give Maldrood Trandoshan Ships and slavers to be heavy units.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2016, 05:17:28 PM »
See I really don't want Maldrood to be just the terradoc brothers, and then a bunch of pirates.
Maybe a Gc focus on the core world we could have Harsk with Kosh because they allied.
or we could do something where we add trandosha and make it so they can recruit Moff Darcc or bossk(bossk would make more sense)
And we can use it as a way to give Maldrood Trandoshan Ships and slavers to be heavy units.
Yes, but I think that one or two pirates are not problem. Maybe just Phan Riizolo with his Booty Full(Bulk cruiser). :)
I agree about add Bossk for Maldrood.
If I know Harsk was an enemy of Maldrood.

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2016, 09:13:34 PM »
Not at the beginning Kosh Teradoc allied with form time to time until era 3/4.
See Maldrood would be great if they had Bossk give him his Zahn units, but... We should add Trandosha  with this to help Maldrood.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pekt
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hindane_Darcc
The both were around after Endor and die around the time after The Endor Aftermath Campaign.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2016, 09:58:04 PM »
Darcc & Pekt both died basically at the VERY BEGINNING of the mod's timeframe.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2016, 10:08:49 PM »
Darcc & Pekt both died basically at the VERY BEGINNING of the mod's timeframe.
True, but I am saying that we should use Trandoshan's ships and forces for Maldrood.
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2016, 01:40:16 AM »
Darcc & Pekt both died basically at the VERY BEGINNING of the mod's timeframe.

Considering we're more or less using the Battle of Endor's immediate conclusion as our starting point now, there are a few characters that just barely make it in for consideration. We're including some of them like Pekt and Darcc as recruitment options since Kashyyyk did request Maldrood's assictance, especially considering how scarce hero options can be for these factions. Ideally we'd be able to lock them to earlier in the campaign, which I have an idea for, but if not that's #JustEaWProblems. Considering they get access to Pekt, Bossk actually goes somewhere else.

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And we can use it as a way to give Maldrood Trandoshan Ships and slavers to be heavy units.
True, but I am saying that we should use Trandoshan's ships and forces for Maldrood.

Pekt/Darcc/Weebacca will be the only connection to the Trandoshan slavers, the connection to Maldrood even for them is already fairly tangential. There's also not really such a thing as "Trandoshan ships," they didn't design or build anything of note.

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have the Imperial SSDs ( Reaper, Night Hammer,  Agressor) and Repubilc SSDs ( Lusankya Guardian) different Skin?
or the Same if the Exekutor has?

Knight Hammer has its black stealth armour, Lusankya has the same NR logos its always had. Nothing else was really unique about any of them, unless we were to give Guardian Lusankya's model just for consistency.

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Okay still wondering on what are the new campaigns.
I'm guessing camassi crisis and the crimson empire are happening. Most likely means Peallon will get the reaper as well.
As for The others?
Most likely a couple Warlord Themed ones.
we already know Final Imperial Push is being spread into 3 Gcs so
Any guess on Gcs and heros?

Once the We Could Be Heroes update series is done, GCs will likely be the next thing we discuss in news posts aside from the faction profiles.

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What about add a few members of Leonia Tavira's invids group for Maldrood?

We would like to represent them to some degree; the specific ones we're using are yet to be decided. Tavira brings a few different things to the table for Maldrood, but we don't wanna have too many heroes require her or be available through her.

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Not at the beginning Kosh Teradoc allied with form time to time until era 3/4.

That was just Kosh, whose forces were technically distinct from Treutan's/Maldrood until the Federated Teradoc Union. Even when they were separate, however, Kosh was fighting Harrsk as much as he was allying with him.
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