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September 09, 2016, 07:51:40 PM

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« on: September 09, 2016, 07:51:40 PM »
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September 13, 2016, 12:33:07 PMReply #1

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 12:33:07 PM »
Now my suggestion https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M973348579b8e3fd0ccaf24eade97811fo0&w=300&h=225&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0

This.

I recognize it from Republic Commando, but I don't actually know what class of ship it is, or it's manufacturers. All I know is it's capable of operating in a planet's atmosphere, and that it's probably too small to be an actual dreadnought.
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September 13, 2016, 02:18:55 PMReply #2

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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2016, 02:18:55 PM »
The first one is only ever seen sitting on a CIS planet during Republic Commando or being through at someone by Starkiller; the only time it could really be used is in trying to flesh out a CIS roster, it was never in any way associated with anyone else and there's no basis on which to include it for anyone else. Even calling it the "Geoenosian Dreadnaught" is a fan thing that's only really been within EaW mods.



This one is a fanon design, pretty sure it's Evillejedi's Mandator.
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September 13, 2016, 05:20:57 PMReply #3

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September 14, 2016, 12:36:22 AMReply #4

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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 12:36:22 AM »
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M616f238c0acb3a1110765b9aaf98cf97o0&w=299&h=187&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0
What about these ships
http://www.laboiteverte.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tie-fighter-star-wars.jpg

Pretty sure the first one is the Procursator, which may or may not be in the mod, it's definitely in Ascendency.

The second one is a ton of fighters, most of which are more or less identical in perofrmance to an existing fighter AND were rare to almost never seen, so have no good reason to be done.  Except a few, which are already in the game.
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September 14, 2016, 05:23:40 AMReply #5

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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 05:23:40 AM »
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M616f238c0acb3a1110765b9aaf98cf97o0&w=299&h=187&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0
What about these ships
http://www.laboiteverte.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tie-fighter-star-wars.jpg

If ships are going to be put into the mod, they have to make sense in context. If the dev team just throw in ships willy-nilly, this mod is gonna end up like FOC Alliance...

September 14, 2016, 07:29:22 AMReply #6

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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 07:29:22 AM »
If ships are going to be put into the mod, they have to make sense in context. If the dev team just throw in ships willy-nilly, this mod is gonna end up like FOC Alliance...
These units are good units to fill in Warlord  Slots so they can go up against bigger factions.
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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 09:23:08 AM »
These units are good units to fill in Warlord  Slots so they can go up against bigger factions.

No, they're not.  Most of these ships were experimental only, never actually going into production for anyone.  Some are out of the timeline of the mod so wouldn't be used even if they were production ships.  The production ships in that pic are almost all in the mod already in some capacity.  Everything else has no reason to be used because, they simply were never put into full production and usage.


With 1 exception, the ships in that picture that were actively manufactured in the timeline of the mod (Tie/Ln, Tie/In, Tie/D Defender, Tie/D Droid, Scimitar Assualt Bomber (not a tie, single engine), Tie Raptor, Tie Hunter, Chiss Clawcraft, Century Tank) are already in the mod.


The T.I.E. fighters are inferior to the Tie/Ln and older.


The Tie experimental mk(x) were never flown by pilots, they were drones.


All the recon, shuttle, scouts are less effective than a standard Tie/Ln.


The Tie Lamba & Tie Torpedo bomber are, to my knowledge, fanon only.


The Phantom was INSANELY expensive due to it's cloak, and never went into full production due to it's cost and difficulty in acquiring the crystals needed for the cload


The V38 was only created to have a ship that was the basis for the Phantom, and I don't believe it's ever been seen in universe as itself.


The various Bomber variants all had more damage inflicting potential, but were never used that much, and generally were even easier to destroy because of their even larger profile.


That basically leaves the Tie/ad Avenger, which I do wish was in the game as it's my favorite superiority fighter, but it was rather rare, so I understand why it's not, the Opressor and Agressor which were super-low production ships that were insanely expensive, although very effective.
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September 14, 2016, 11:24:35 AMReply #8

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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 11:24:35 AM »
Yeah. Of all those fighters the only one I could possibly see included past what already is would be the Avenger, maybe as Delvardus' top-tier fighter, but even then that's not really canon and stretching things as much as the TIE Hunter for the PA.
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September 14, 2016, 11:41:26 AMReply #9

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Re: The starship suggestion list
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 11:41:26 AM »
I agree with TLMiller, Revanchist & LordSion2931, if were gonna suggest ships, we have to put in context with the mod (Otherwise, we'd have a clusterfuck of ships that serve no useful purpose and were just put there cause "Look at this cool ship").

I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a dick AdmiralThrawn2 but you have to check the context of your suggested ships if you want Corey to look at them.

September 14, 2016, 02:01:38 PMReply #10

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 02:01:38 PM »
I agree Revan the TIE Avenger would be nice to see ingame. perhaps its not out of the question BECAUSE the PA has the Hunter. As for the others I would love to see a TIE Heavy Bomber or TIE Interdictor as like a K-wing counterpart.

September 14, 2016, 04:40:13 PMReply #11

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 04:40:13 PM »
I agree with TLMiller, Revanchist & LordSion2931, if were gonna suggest ships, we have to put in context with the mod (Otherwise, we'd have a clusterfuck of ships that serve no useful purpose and were just put there cause "Look at this cool ship").

I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a dick AdmiralThrawn2 but you have to check the context of your suggested ships if you want Corey to look at them.
hahahah no problem man see The reason I put up a list of tie fighters is you guys would find one that makes sense In
As for all being useless you forgot the ship I show the Prosecutor SD.


As for ships for Warlords Maldrood Could use V-wings possibly. the Hutts use them to defend fleets of cargo and the empire use them. Next are Ark 170s they were use by rebels and imperials alike they could be a fighter or bomber. finally Gozanti Cruiser since the empire use them so did the cooperate sector some could even curry tie fighters.   
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September 14, 2016, 06:12:01 PMReply #12

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 06:12:01 PM »
hahahah no problem man see The reason I put up a list of tie fighters is you guys would find one that makes sense In
As for all being useless you forgot the ship I show the Prosecutor SD.


I did not forget it, that was the first thing I posted:

Pretty sure the first one is the Procursator, which may or may not be in the mod, it's definitely in Ascendency.

As for ships for Warlords Maldrood Could use V-wings possibly. the Hutts use them to defend fleets of cargo and the empire use them. Next are Ark 170s they were use by rebels and imperials alike they could be a fighter or bomber. finally Gozanti Cruiser since the empire use them so did the cooperate sector some could even curry tie fighters.

I believe V-Wings are in the mod already, so could be used (I know V-19's are, but I think the V-Wing also was?).  ARC, not ARK -170 (stands for Agressive ReConnaisance).  These wouldn't be a horrible addition, other than being very rare by the timeframe that the mod is based in.  They're the spiritual predecessor to the X-Wing, but they are, for this timeframe, EXCEEDINGLY slow craft despite their impressive weapons loadout.  They were a great bomber craft, although they'd be a horrible fighter due to their slow speeds.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 06:26:38 PM »
V-wings aren't in the Mod, but they were in the vanilla. Maldrood (or rather Tavira, who was allied-ish with them and will be a hero) is known for the Clutch fighter, so I would say they'll probably get that.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 07:08:34 PM »
V-wings aren't in the Mod, but they were in the vanilla. Maldrood (or rather Tavira, who was allied-ish with them and will be a hero) is known for the Clutch fighter, so I would say they'll probably get that.

I like the sound of that.  I'm a big fan of the clutch fighter from my days destroying an old roommate with it in X-Wing Alliance regardless of the ship he chose.
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September 14, 2016, 08:52:19 PMReply #15

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2016, 08:52:19 PM »
I like the sound of that.  I'm a big fan of the clutch fighter from my days destroying an old roommate with it in X-Wing Alliance regardless of the ship he chose.
I am curious what ships would you guys recommend.
this was made for all so I Have a idea
name a ship you want for the three Warlord factions or choose a Warlord or Empire of the hand ship and place it like this example.
Example:
Warlord Zsinj's Empire: Gozanti Cruisers. Reason: Cooperate Sector use them and so did the empire.

That's how You can format it then we will all talk about it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2016, 09:16:58 PM »
Well I like this idea Thrawn :)
Eraidu authority: Torpedo Sphere Reason: they need some diversity and it is a perfect ship to defeat super class ships while not being a SSD and the Loronar Corperation the company that made them had an influence on Eraidu IIRC
Eraidu: TIE Avenger Reason: A unique TIE variant that while rare was powerful and could be a good light bomber. and since the PA has the TIE Hunter why cant they have the Avenger?
Eraidu: Assault Frigate MKII Reason: if memory serves I think Delvardus had control of Rendilli for a short while cause correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it near Eraidu?
Greater Maldrood: Space ARC Cruiser Reason: A perfect 1km long Pirate ship for the Maldrood's roster while still being powerful enough to beat ISD MK1s and MC80 Liberty Cruisers
Greater Maldrood: Battle Horn class cruiser Reason: An upgraded version of the Neutron Star class that was better armed and armored. Terridoc favored smaller ships so this could work for him
Zsinj's Empire: Tagge Battlecruiser Reason: The Cooperate Sector was supported heavily by the Tagge Family and Zsinj controlled it so it makes sense some tagge ships would be there
Zsinj: Recusent class Destroyer Reason: The Corporate Sector used them so Zsinj would have had them at his desposal along with the Luckrehulks

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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2016, 09:19:37 PM »
I would love to see the Tie/ad Avenger and the Invid clutch fighter.  Other than that, I'm perfectly happy with what's in the mod.
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September 15, 2016, 07:28:12 AMReply #18

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2016, 07:28:12 AM »
Yeah Earidu would be coolin they had avengers.
Recusent class Destroyer would be cool for Zsinj.
The units on your Maldrood I honestly don't know well
but sound unique. we just need to remember that with Maldrood it will be the closes to a pirate faction but not 100% a pirate faction
cool ideas though
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2016, 06:35:18 AM »
The wingless Victory Class Star Destroyer variant seen in this panel of Dark Empire: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Victory_I-class_Star_Destroyer?file=Avenger_Victory_Balmorra.jpg

Nothing is known about the stats of the ship and/or if they differ much from the Victory I or Victory II. But the wingless variant appears to be providing close escort for the ISD Avenger which was currently serving as the flagship of Executor Sedriss.

If it were added to the mod the wingless variant could be extrapolated as the final evolution of the Victory class- a Victory III, if you would. I've regarded the  Victory II as a partial downgrade over its predecessor since they removed all the concussion missile launchers. The wingless variant could incorporate the improvements of of the Victory II while retaining the concussion missile launchers or perhaps replacing them with proton torpedo launchers. Such a ships would allow the Imperial remnant to give those nasty Bothan Assault ships a run for their money.

 

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