Author Topic: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong (Read 91140 times)

Re4_wesker · « **Reply #240 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:55:07 PM »

yeah it was a near quote from what han said. although one interesting thing is that palpatine designed the empire so it could destroy the vong. palpatine forsaw the vong invasion and that's why he reorganized the nr into the empire. 8)

too bad palpatine didn't forsee his own death!

Dr. Knickers · « **Reply #241 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:11:30 PM »

I henceforth name this thread The Ultimate SW Novel Quote Rippage Thread.

And the Vong could always unleash tons of grutchins or some spores that eat or digest all that metal

vadereclipse · « **Reply #242 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:16:52 PM »

isamu, you're a fucktard.
get some proper evidence. not just assumptions and open-ended answeres.

Isamu · « **Reply #243 on:** March 30, 2008, 09:48:53 PM »

Quote from: vadereclipse on March 30, 2008, 08:16:52 PM

isamu, you're a fucktard.
get some proper evidence. not just assumptions and open-ended answeres.

besides flaming, this is also wrong.
the empirial remnant desiged the bloodfin which was a "pocket" stardestroyer. smaller and more maneuverable than preveous isd's but still had the kick of one. this was being discussed when pellaeon was being presented with the ship which he would use to help in the aid of invading fondor

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #244 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:16:13 PM »

So the IR made one small powerful ship, and that leads you to the conclusion that big ships are no longer any good?

aNaRcHiSt44 · « **Reply #245 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:46:59 AM »

Maybe they just lost effectinevess compared to smaller ships? Not as cost-effective as smaller ships perhaps?

vadereclipse · « **Reply #246 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:03:04 AM »

Quote from: aNaRcHiSt44 on March 31, 2008, 12:46:59 AM

Maybe they just lost effectinevess compared to smaller ships? Not as cost-effective as smaller ships perhaps?

ssh. don't take isamu's side. he's never right.
big ships are stronger.
the turbulent-class looks to me like it filled the place of the victory, which was pretty much obsolete by then.

aNaRcHiSt44 · « **Reply #247 on:** March 31, 2008, 07:03:12 AM »

I am just trying to help him. The bigger the ship doesnt necessarily mean it is overall better according to the rules of 'cost-effectiveness'.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #248 on:** March 31, 2008, 07:38:22 AM »

but big ships generally are cost-effective.
i mean, i'll give you that eclipses and sovereigns were not cost-effective, but executors and ISDs were very cost-effective.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #249 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:05:47 AM »

Isamu, it packed the punch of an ISD in a smaller package, but then they could build a new ship just as large as the normal Impstars with even more firepower. Just because they made a smaller vessel doesn't mean larger one are obsolete. Besides, the Chimera was an outdated ISD with some new toys that was kicking ass.

Meyer · « **Reply #250 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:53:31 AM »

Turbulent-class SD was designed as smaller and more maneuverable variant SD than ISD.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #251 on:** March 31, 2008, 10:25:01 AM »

Let me rephrase that. The Chimera was kicking the Turbulent-class SDs asses in that fight.

Isamu · « **Reply #252 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:13:49 PM »

Quote from: Scarecrow63 on March 30, 2008, 11:16:13 PM

So the IR made one small powerful ship, and that leads you to the conclusion that big ships are no longer any good?

no its just that tactics had moved on from pure slug matches. mainly impart of the rebellion taking down isd's with only 12 x-wing grouped attacks. and the chimera had a special weapon that gave it an advantage. the phase shifter.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #253 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Isamu on March 31, 2008, 01:13:49 PM

Quote from: Scarecrow63 on March 30, 2008, 11:16:13 PM
So the IR made one small powerful ship, and that leads you to the conclusion that big ships are no longer any good?
no its just that tactics had moved on from pure slug matches. mainly impart of the rebellion taking down isd's with only 12 x-wing grouped attacks.

you mean rogue squadron taking down ISDs. big difference. rogue squadron=elite pilots.
generic squadrons: people with minimal training. (to an extent, the rebels would have taken what they could, i mean luke qwas admitted after a few hour's training.)

Isamu · « **Reply #254 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:55:04 PM »

yes it was mainly rogue squadron but many other squadrons did the same thing. it was too much for the imperials to lose 35,000 approximate crew and a very expensive star destroyer to 12 pilots with a few proton torpedoes. also the ability to move through a battlefield is very essential to winning. slug fights usually end with the winning side heavily damaged. if you can slip into the enemy defense screen, you can do unimaginable damage. that is what the turbulent class is for. and also the chimaera was defending the turbulent class that was there which was the bloodfin. because pellaeon was onboard and after he died, she was trying to capture the ship.

vadereclipse · « **Reply #255 on:** March 31, 2008, 02:13:30 PM »

i doubt an enemy ship of anything larger than a small frigate could get to the defence screen. as soon as it is evident that the enemy ship is heading there, it is focused on, and on the whole, destroyed.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #256 on:** March 31, 2008, 02:16:15 PM »

And the Rogues never actually kill even a Vic by themselves. They always have support when they kill something that size. They didn't kill The Vic in Bacta Wars until the Alderaanian War Frigate showed up.

Isamu · « **Reply #257 on:** March 31, 2008, 02:22:18 PM »

look at wat thrawn was able to do with a mere 100 meter long ship against thousands of ships.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #258 on:** March 31, 2008, 02:29:59 PM »

Thousands of fighters, not capitals. Unless you are talking about the Vagaari, in which case, he used all those droid starfighters and C'baoth's use of the force. Does not count.

Meyer · « **Reply #259 on:** March 31, 2008, 03:12:49 PM »

Quote from: Dane Kiet on March 31, 2008, 10:25:01 AM

Let me rephrase that. The Chimera was kicking the Turbulent-class SDs asses in that fight.

actually the Chimaera didn't fight against Bloodfin. and no way even rogue squadron would destroy ISD on their own. 1 ISD carries some 60 fighters. I'm not counting the bombers which bring the number to 72.

and Thrawn was able to bring total chaos on heavily destroyed ship yard with just one modified bulk cruiser and 50 mole miners plus some 40 ties.

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Author Topic: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong (Read 91140 times)

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