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Would Empire have been capable to defeat Yuuzhan Vong?

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October 19, 2007, 04:40:34 PMReply #20

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2007, 04:40:34 PM »
If you'd read the rules you would know.
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October 20, 2007, 03:50:58 AMReply #21

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2007, 03:50:58 AM »
why wouldn't the most of ISDs be able to fight YV? Palpatine used only a minority of his force to fight off rebels. most of the ISDs were in the core and protecting valuable worlds. They wouldn't waste an ISD class military vessel in peacekeeping operation when much smaller would do the job as well. And the YV war cost the galaxy near 365 trillion sentients death. So I think there is no trouble that Empire would have 25000+ ISD and even more smaller ships. And to that cloning, I remember that it only conserned stormtrooper corps, not the whole empire. and my point was that if they would need extra men, which I doubt, they could use it. and conserning the number of humans: "Humans were the galaxy's most numerous and politically dominant sentient species with millions of major and minor colonies galaxywide."
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October 20, 2007, 06:46:55 AMReply #22

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2007, 06:46:55 AM »
why wouldn't the most of ISDs be able to fight YV? Palpatine used only a minority of his force to fight off rebels. most of the ISDs were in the core and protecting valuable worlds. They wouldn't waste an ISD class military vessel in peacekeeping operation when much smaller would do the job as well.
Yes, only a small portion of the Imperial fleet was fighting the rebels at any one time, because the majority was occupied maintaining peace and security throughout the rest of the Empire (i cant remember where that is said, but its definitely said in one of the books, might have been the Hand of Thrawn books..).  But if they did have 25000 Star Destroyers that werent used for peacekeeping and security, why were there so few at Endor? (and im sure Palpatine made some mention of how much of his starfleet was there)
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October 20, 2007, 08:09:02 AMReply #23

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2007, 08:09:02 AM »
but Palpatine trusted for the DSII to finish the rebels. And I'm sure some of the ISDs were with Thrawn in UR and other task forces around the empire.
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October 20, 2007, 09:34:28 AMReply #24

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2007, 09:34:28 AM »
If prototype DS fired on and destroyed small capital ships I dont see how it cant be seen as a benefit.
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October 20, 2007, 09:36:08 AMReply #25

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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2007, 09:36:08 AM »
and any further studies from the Mam installation like that one that destroyed one of the rebel ships in that last book of that trilogy. And wasn't emperor preparing for the arrival of Yuuzhan Vong?
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October 20, 2007, 10:24:27 AMReply #26

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2007, 10:24:27 AM »
the prototype death star was enormously inaccurate and was only ble to destroy a planet's core.
effectively, it was an inaccurate eclipse.

October 20, 2007, 03:32:42 PMReply #27

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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2007, 03:32:42 PM »
but the laser doesn't need to be so accurate. the dovin basals would suck the beam right on them and try to hold it. but the super laser is too powerful for them.
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October 20, 2007, 03:55:00 PMReply #28

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2007, 03:55:00 PM »
The Prototype was aimed at Kessel and hit the moon :-\
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October 20, 2007, 03:57:21 PMReply #29

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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2007, 03:57:21 PM »
well the crew using it wasn't the best one to use. one thing you should remember. but still I think the prototype wouldn't have been used in battle. it wasn't designed for that.
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October 20, 2007, 04:02:23 PMReply #30

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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2007, 04:02:23 PM »
The crew using it were some of the Empire's best designers.. And, you're right, it wasnt intended to be used in battle, it was just a proof of concept.
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October 20, 2007, 04:11:17 PMReply #31

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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2007, 04:11:17 PM »
and being good designer doesn't mean you're good using the thing you have designed. I mean Sivron was bureacraut who believed firm rutins to have the best result. he kept meetings during the assault on the Maw and his "escape" from there.
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October 20, 2007, 05:14:32 PMReply #32

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2007, 05:14:32 PM »
surely the empire could use the suncrusher and the war would be won by sending the sun nearest of the main fleet supernova

October 20, 2007, 05:38:11 PMReply #33

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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2007, 05:38:11 PM »
That would only work if the Vong fleet was close enough to the star to be within the supernova..
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October 20, 2007, 06:51:51 PMReply #34

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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2007, 06:51:51 PM »
umm...
dovin basal?
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October 21, 2007, 02:42:48 AMReply #35

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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2007, 02:42:48 AM »
no. but suncrusher would just be able to fly throught the enemy ships. and sun crusher is relatively easy and cheap to construct, compared to DS, so there could be many of those.
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October 21, 2007, 05:40:18 AMReply #36

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Re: Empire vs Yuuzhan Vong
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2007, 05:40:18 AM »
the resonance torpedoes would be a bit** to produce in mass production and i dont think the empire were willingto mass prodduce theb sun crusher unless they had a way of destroying them in the sun crusher pilot defected

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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2007, 05:46:22 AM »
why would an imperial pilot defect to Yuuzhan Vong?
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October 21, 2007, 07:19:34 AMReply #38

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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2007, 07:19:34 AM »
if im not mistaken, the republic and empire didnt ally in the vong war

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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2007, 07:35:48 AM »
You are mistaken, the Empire and the NR did ally during the Vong War, and eventually joined together as the GFFA.

And the Suncrusher wouldnt really be suitable to mass production, because both the torpedoes and the Quantum plating would be inordinately expensive.
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