Old Expanded Universe in new cannon

[Lord Hoth]

This is a topic about what the people at Disney are bringing into the new cannon from legends. For example I was playing Battlefront and on the Sullust map I saw what appeared to be a Bellator class dreadnought taking off with a small escort of two ISDs. It was pretty awesome. If anyone else has seen some stuff like this please post it here.

[SteelHand]

Well according to a new book released alongside the new movie, there is a map  that points out a world called Rakata Prime, which any learned and civilized Star Wars gamer knows to be the homeworld of the galaxy's first race of conquerors and empire-builders out of KotOR 1.  With the book following Disney's policy of all content now being canon going forward, Rakata Prime is now a canon world, which leads me to conclude that KotOR 1 and 2 as well TOR are canon.  In addition, even though his appearance in Clone Wars was shameful at best, Darth Bane, in at least some form, is canon.

[Guderian]

They integrated the Immobilizer 418 into the new cannon.
So good chance that we may get the Vindicator Heavy Cruiser too.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Most importantly for me was the New Republic. Long ago when all we had on The Force Awakens was rumours, one rumour was going around saying the Empire quashed the Rebels' attempts to form their government. Then when the Battle of Jakku was brought to light, I jumped for joy to see it was a battle between New Republic and Imperial holdouts.

MAJOR spoilers for The Force Awakens and other new material ahead.





It seems to me that with the new canon leading up to Force Awakens and TFA itself, they cherry-picked certain aspects of the old EU to incorporate into the new canon. Although our favourite Remnant leaders and warlords have vanished from canon, the events of the Imperial Civil War were condensed into a single year - the Moffs squabbled over who should lead the Empire, the New Republic took advantage of the situation and struck hard and fast, forcing them into a peace treaty that put an end to Imperial application of power. And anyone who's seen TFA knows that it takes quite a few things from the old EU - the return of Anakin's lightsaber, Luke going into hermitage in search of old Jedi secrets, the offspring of a certain couple turning to the dark side... and the death of an original trilogy main character.





End spoilers.

[Lord Xizer]

In one of the new source books on the Inquistors they have a picture of Jerec interrogating a rebel so maybe he'sstill canon

[StarLordX]

In one of the new source books on the Inquistors they have a picture of Jerec interrogating a rebel so maybe he'sstill canon

If Jerec is canon, then Kyle Katarn should be canon as well. It would do justice for Disney to consider the Jedi Knight games canon.

[Jesse220]

I hope they'll add more stuff to the canon universe

[Guderian]

If Jerec is canon, then Kyle Katarn should be canon as well. It would do justice for Disney to consider the Jedi Knight games canon.

I don't think the Story as presented in Jedi Knight fits to the new canon...

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Well there's at least a little wiggle room for Dark Forces II. But the games after that, yeah, they're very much Legends territory.

[Lord Xizer]

I do at least respect what "Rebels" is doing. They are trying to put in more EU characters and references-the Inquisitors, Immobilizor 418s etc.

[Pentastar Enforcer]

I do at least respect what "Rebels" is doing. They are trying to put in more EU characters and references-the Inquisitors, Immobilizor 418s etc.

Err, Filoni's work for the star wars universe I'd consider mediocre at best. The Clone Wars was an okay show, and had some interesting things, but the whole father son daughter thing was garbage, and a lot of the things in clone wars was really unnecessary or detracted from the original story even. Now with rebels I'd say that it's unfortunately worse in that factor, with stormtroopers (and most of the empire for that matter) practically being garbage against the rebels. Clones on the other hand are now practically flawless in every way combat wise, when they should be on par with imperial stormtroopers, maybe a little better but not a whole lot. Speaking of the Empire, since when did it throw 3 inquisitors, which last time I checked were an extremely valuable resource, at a small group of rebels, only to lose 1, and the other 2 still manage to fail miserably at fighting the rebels. I really don't like Filoni for a lot of what he's done to say the least.

[Lord Xizer]

Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of it. I do feel a lot of restrictions are put on them by Disney though. I was mainly just pointing out that someone in the design department did go to the effort to add the Inquisitorious

[Guderian]

Err, Filoni's work for the star wars universe I'd consider mediocre at best. The Clone Wars was an okay show, and had some interesting things, but the whole father son daughter thing was garbage, and a lot of the things in clone wars was really unnecessary or detracted from the original story even. Now with rebels I'd say that it's unfortunately worse in that factor, with stormtroopers (and most of the empire for that matter) practically being garbage against the rebels. Clones on the other hand are now practically flawless in every way combat wise, when they should be on par with imperial stormtroopers, maybe a little better but not a whole lot. Speaking of the Empire, since when did it throw 3 inquisitors, which last time I checked were an extremely valuable resource, at a small group of rebels, only to lose 1, and the other 2 still manage to fail miserably at fighting the rebels. I really don't like Filoni for a lot of what he's done to say the least.

That Stormtroopers are no good at anything was sort of already declared with the Episodes 4-6...
Which i always thought was ridiculous, given that they have armor and still got killed with freaking stones!
So for me that was never surprising and i sort of came to terms with the fact that you can't use stormtroopers for anything in the Canon....
That is what Empire at War and other Star Wars Titles are for, where you can use Stormtroopers and kick some Rebels ass.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I've discovered that thanks to Star Wars: Uprising, Zann Consortium is canon. We've also got Carracks and Lancers brought to canon.

[Corey]

Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of it. I do feel a lot of restrictions are put on them by Disney though.

I don't see any huge difference between Clone Wars and Rebels, so I'm not sure what restrictions you're seeing. If anything, Rebels is a better show.

[Lord Hoth]

Pretty cool about the Zann Consortium. I'm also hoping that we see a Boba Fett book soon. To me the clone wars series was pretty bad except for the lightsaber fights which is kind of funny because the lightsaber fights in rebels just aren't that good.

[Pali]

Personally, I enjoyed Clone Wars a great deal, and though I've not kept up with season 2 of Rebels, I liked season 1 a lot as well as season 2's opening.

Remember that these are kids shows.  They have to be judged by that metric.  Serious discussion of issues, competent bad guys... Kid shows often do not have these things.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Clone Wars liked to get a bit grittier than Rebels has so far shown to be, especially the Order 66 implant story. But since that was a season 6 story, maybe Rebels just needs time to get a bit more daring.