Author Topic: Polished Duskhan League (Read 52519 times)

kucsidave · « **Reply #40 on:** August 13, 2015, 07:30:02 AM »

All right, Things changed.
The submod reborn from it's ashes and will make the DL not just a different colored IR, but something having flavor. The new tech tree:

http://thrawnsrevenge.com/forums/index.php?topic=5512

Also:

I need a modeler whom would have the devotion to create a Yevethan with sniper rifle for the scout and a plex soldier model.

Any help would be appreciated.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #41 on:** August 13, 2015, 08:21:12 AM »

You have my full support. I'll look for modellors, art on the Yevetha and anything I can to help. I love those xenophobes too. Might want to think about the EX-F for them too.

kucsidave · « **Reply #42 on:** August 13, 2015, 10:01:34 AM »

The very limited list of planets where the DL will be able to build the Hypervelocity gun. (the number of planets may increase)
Bastion, Bilbringi, Byss, Dathomir, Denon, Fondor, Kuat, N'zoth, Sullust and last but not least: Yaga Minor.
Only 1/ planet. This will make it a real deal to defend, and you can not rely only on this OP weapon

Quote from: Lord Xizer on August 13, 2015, 08:21:12 AM

You have my full support. I'll look for modellors, art on the Yevetha and anything I can to help. I love those xenophobes too. Might want to think about the EX-F for them too.

What is that EX-F?
In the PA folder i found the IFX(which is the TX-130 saber tank...), but i didn't found EX-F anywhere...

Slornie · « **Reply #43 on:** August 13, 2015, 12:51:25 PM »

He means the testbed the Yevetha acquired from the Empire (it's not in ICW): http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EX-F

kucsidave · « **Reply #44 on:** August 13, 2015, 01:21:59 PM »

Ah, I see.
But about what I red, they could not understand it even after 12 years of reverse engineering, and the DL don't really want to change eras, so as good it could be for a brand new era 5 unit class as Sorannan-class star destroyers with the glory as a new hero unit, sadly there is no way to implement them so far.

If I can find a solution for that, Then I might add it in a later version, but it would require an another brand new model.
I already need new models for the Scouts, the Plex troopers and the Holonet Hackers and I have no modeler.
(you really don't want me to do it. I guarantee you wouldn't like the end result

)

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #45 on:** August 13, 2015, 09:50:58 PM »

Quote from: kucsidave on August 13, 2015, 01:21:59 PM

Ah, I see.
But about what I red, they could not understand it even after 12 years of reverse engineering, and the DL don't really want to change eras, so as good it could be for a brand new era 5 unit class as Sorannan-class star destroyers with the glory as a new hero unit, sadly there is no way to implement them so far.

If I can find a solution for that, Then I might add it in a later version, but it would require an another brand new model.
I already need new models for the Scouts, the Plex troopers and the Holonet Hackers and I have no modeler.
(you really don't want me to do it. I guarantee you wouldn't like the end result )

Why not use the Sovereign model minus the super laser ability? Also tge main ships of the line should have stronger shields and faster speeds than other factions as the Yevetha didn't just copy, they improved and their energy cores produced twice the output with half the energy of standard cores in ships according to the Black Fleet trilogy. This could be balanced by slower and more expensive construction of copied ships(Imp and NR designs)

Perhaps instead of prison camps, how about extermination camps? Serve similar purpose of getting rid of native population and use of slaves. Diplomacy should be non existent though...

kucsidave · « **Reply #46 on:** August 14, 2015, 11:06:32 AM »

In fact, I already started to play with shield strength and speed, as much as autoresolve rating to make it count there too.
About the extermination camps... those sound too much like an Auschwitz kinda thing, and I do not wish to cause any kind of distress for certain people.
I think i will stay with the Slave camps.

Edit: all right, I might have some difficulty with the slave camps, as the AI doesn't really want to admit it's existence, therefore getting into a huge disadvantage so I will not implement it into the game in any form

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #47 on:** August 15, 2015, 12:09:00 AM »

Could do something like PA. Give them access to certain tech on planets they take.

kucsidave · « **Reply #48 on:** August 15, 2015, 08:33:46 AM »

I was thinking about that, but that's the Balance and Flavor submod's specialty and I don't want to steal ideas, and my sole purpose to polish DL is to give a unique feeling, and this would make it too much PA.
The think I'm planning though is that create a gameplay style what is somewhere between the IR and the NR, which are polar opposites, while in the meantime cr4eating something unique.
That's why I chose the CR90, the Nebulon B-2 and the MC 40a next to the Dreadnaught and the other imperial stuff, and the same goes to the ground too. I made sure to carefully pick every and each one of the aspects to make it unique while maintaining balance.
For example the unique Hijacker unit will have a current limit of 1, lifetime limit of 3 and can only be built on N'zoth.
Holonet Hackers will only be buildable in Nil Spaar's location, however without build limit, so you can stack them and use them when needed. This way you have to decide if you need more, or you can have the luxury to send Nil to other places too.

an another balance method was to remove the AT-ATs deploy troopers ability and replace it with power to weapons. This way you get something for the loss of some infantry, keeping the unit well balanced because while it is more effective against heavy units, now it's anti infantry capabilities dwindled, requiring different troopers to guard it.

I hopw by now you see where I was trying to go with the DL.

In other news

-The DL shall not appear in essence of war, because giving them 6 planets would be an overkill, while having less would make them too limited. Either braking balance or being unplayable...

-I am going to release a pre-beta version without some of the new stuff for some chosen people, as soon as I am done with everything else because I don't have anyone whom would create models for me at the moment, so they can all give me reviews about the playability and balance.

kucsidave · « **Reply #49 on:** August 15, 2015, 08:34:25 AM »

also forgot, the hijackers shall not be part of that, as they are not working correctly at the time

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #50 on:** August 15, 2015, 09:50:50 AM »

Quote from: kucsidave on August 15, 2015, 08:34:25 AM

also forgot, the hijackers shall not be part of that, as they are not working correctly at the time

The team always did say abilities were difficult to get working...

kucsidave · « **Reply #51 on:** August 15, 2015, 10:54:34 AM »

Quote from: Lord Xizer on August 15, 2015, 09:50:50 AM

The team always did say abilities were difficult to get working...

In fact, they don't want to appear in the building options, but the AI builds them none the less, making the game crash, therefore I had to delete it's XML code and saved it in a safe place for the time being until I find out what was wrong...

kucsidave · « **Reply #52 on:** August 24, 2015, 07:41:51 PM »

Surprise Vacation is finally over and I even had some time to work on the submod thanks to my phone(it was not easy to write the program without any tests, only testing it after I came back home).
A hundred words in six:
Polished DL submod 1.0 Beta done!
It is only beta because there are no new Models and Icons.

I will let all of those whom Supported me all the way here have it as soon as the other one is done too!
Only the Vulcanus version is done yet

I have done it first because Xizer uses that version, and I actually gave him a uniqe pre-beta release, what only the two of us saw.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #53 on:** August 24, 2015, 09:27:57 PM »

Quote from: kucsidave on August 24, 2015, 07:41:51 PM

Surprise Vacation is finally over and I even had some time to work on the submod thanks to my phone(it was not easy to write the program without any tests, only testing it after I came back home).
A hundred words in six:
Polished DL submod 1.0 Beta done!
It is only beta because there are no new Models and Icons.

I will let all of those whom Supported me all the way here have it as soon as the other one is done too!
Only the Vulcanus version is done yet
I have done it first because Xizer uses that version, and I actually gave him a uniqe pre-beta release, what only the two of us saw.

Looking forward to testing it Kuscidave. Thanks for including me

kucsidave · « **Reply #54 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:05:11 AM »

Quote from: Lord Xizer on August 24, 2015, 09:27:57 PM

Looking forward to testing it Kuscidave. Thanks for including me

No, thank YOU for supporting me all the way!

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #55 on:** August 25, 2015, 03:32:48 PM »

Quote from: kucsidave on August 25, 2015, 09:05:11 AM

No, thank YOU for supporting me all the way!

Happy to do so.

Corey · « **Reply #56 on:** August 25, 2015, 04:13:13 PM »

Not to sound like a jerk, but I wouldn't predicate any plans on the ability to find modelers/texture artists.

tlmiller · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2015, 04:16:58 PM »

Although, you could always learn how to do it yourself. I started trying. Realized I simply have no artistic ability.

I can make lines, but beyond that, I was baffled by how to do the programs.

kucsidave · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2015, 04:20:59 PM »

And I am in the level of stick figures... As I said, Nobody wants me to do them.

tlmiller · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:16:53 PM »

I really wanted to learn. Since Wings3D is in the debian repository (this is what Corey said he uses most often) I installed it on most of my machines, but just suck at trying to do anything.