Author Topic: So this is how it ends (Read 16026 times)

Revanchist · « **on:** April 25, 2014, 01:52:12 PM »

http://starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html

So long EU, it's been a great 35 years

Corey · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2014, 01:54:05 PM »

For fuck's sakes. Well, the mod's staying in Universe 1.

Slornie · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2014, 03:57:59 PM »

FFS.

However, I'm still hoping that a good chunk of the existing Expanded Universe will be adopted by this new canon. I'd hate to see them push everything into this new "Legends" corner (like the what-if Infinities corner) and then create an entire new continuity for the 30 years between trilogies.

JC123 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2014, 05:16:39 PM »

So... do I even qualify as a star wars fan now? Most of the stuff I liked for years has been declared "unofficial" and I don't know what the official stuff is yet. My tastes haven't changed, but the food did. Does this make me a defacto Fanon fan? I don't know if I like the sound of that.

Mat8876 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2014, 05:27:41 PM »

Quote from: JC123 on April 25, 2014, 05:16:39 PM

So... do I even qualify as a star wars fan now? Most of the stuff I liked for years has been declared "unofficial" and I don't know what the official stuff is yet. My tastes haven't changed, but the food did. Does this make me a defacto Fanon fan? I don't know if I like the sound of that.

No you are a fan anyone who prefers the stories that Lucasarts/Disney make are not fans.

Waffle Wagon · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2014, 05:51:37 PM »

Well, I think its a tad early to say that since none of us have seen or read any of Disney's new stuff. Mind you, it doesn't exactly look promising, but I'm willing to withhold judgement until I see what they have to offer.

Anyway, look at the bright side. Now that the EOTH is a completely fanon faction, there's no reason why they can't have an SSD!

Mat8876 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 25, 2014, 06:13:59 PM »

Just because it's now classed as non-canon doesn't mean the team will put it in.

Singularity · « **Reply #7 on:** April 25, 2014, 09:12:33 PM »

Well, Star Wars is basically dead to me now. It was nice knowing you guys.

Meyer · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2014, 05:06:11 AM »

May the Force be with you EU!

Slornie · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2014, 05:48:29 AM »

Copy-pasta from another forum 'cos I'm lazy.

Quote from: Slornie;8354

Maybe the Vong War will be retconned as an in-universe Holo-Drama?

It will definitely be interesting to see how they deal with the content chronologically furthest from the new trilogy. The pre-prequel content (KotoR etc), the pre-original content (Han Solo backstory and all the Clone Wars Novels), and the early post-original content (Thrawn trilogy was within the first decade after all).

It's also interesting to note that all of the newly announced "canon" stories appear to be set in the close vicinity to the original trilogy. A backstory to some of the Star Wars: Rebels characters (which is set pre-IV), a Tarkin story (died in IV), a Palpatine/Vader story (died in VI), and a Luke first-person "Heir to the Jedi" story. There's nothing announced thus far that would directly lead in to the new trilogy. I wouldn't be surprised to see a mini comic series released in the latter half of next year like the "Star Trek: Countdown" and "Star Trek: Countdown to Darkness" serials IDW produced for JJ's Trek films.

CaptainPogo · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2014, 07:56:07 PM »

On one hand, I can understand the decision. These days, people are kind of clueless over the stuff in the EU compared to the films and mostly TCW (which already did certain changes to EU canon) and instead of making new fans read a Hell ton of books just to understand one certain thing (seriously, it's kind of hilarious just how much time and effort (as god knows how many stories) was done for the Death Star plans campaign for the Rebel Alliance as it was a massive joint effort made by many random spies and mercs while each believe they got all the plans yet it makes sense...It's a huge battle station...One person isn't enough).

On the other hand, this is kind of a middle finger to longtime fans. I mean I thought TCW was alright but I was kind of pissed they went on to change things when I read the Republic comic series before hand (and they were great stories). This whole thing renders a lot of the things I enjoyed about Star Wars kind of not exactly official...And that kind of stings.

Darman · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2014, 02:58:20 PM »

This inferiorates me beyond belief... I've read dozens of EU books and now apparently none of them matter! George Lucas can rot in a Sarlacc

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2014, 12:55:31 AM »

I reject Disney's canon in favor of true geniuses and visionaries like Tim Zahn, mike stakpole, aaron alston, james luceno and others who made the EU a great place of character and adventure that Disney cant hope to recreate.

CaptainPogo · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:33:42 AM »

Quote from: Lord Xizer on April 28, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

I reject Disney's canon in favor of true geniuses and visionaries like Tim Zahn, mike stakpole, aaron alston, james luceno and others who made the EU a great place of character and adventure that Disney cant hope to recreate.

Also...Let's face it, this is kind of a middle finger to these guys, despite whatever reaction we get officially.

They worked hard to make the Star Wars universe more than the films and they earned their fans. Now just hearing that their works are no longer valid and are stuck in some "legends" mode is kind of...Yeah.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:44:19 AM »

Before the Dark Times...before the Disney destroyed the EU continuity.

Darman · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2014, 09:27:14 AM »

So does this mean all that starwars Lego series crap is now official?

Darman · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2014, 09:28:14 AM »

And all the books which actually make sense are not official. That in itself makes no sense at all..

Carnivore Jacques · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2014, 02:47:20 PM »

Keep in mind, all they said was that they'd change canon to include what they like and the new stuff, and scrap the rest. We don't know what's getting axed exactly. At this point, statements like 'they're getting rid of the Vong' or 'they're undoing Chewbacca's death' or 'Zahn is non-canahn' are more or less all speculation.

Canon is kind of a weird concept that by no means is a component of every fictional universe. Most franchises don't even bother to acknowledge 'which fiction really happened'. The stories that are now non-canon can still be read and enjoyed, and for the most part they work well as standalone stories featuring characters from other stories, much like a massive crossover among dozens of writers.

Was 'The Star Wars' any less enjoyable because it was infinities? What about the Marvel Comics or the alternate ANH? Of course not. I think we all had a tendency to ignore the stupid parts of canon anyway, and if that happens to become the whole thing, so be it. The good parts still exist, amongst the what-ifs and could-have-beens.

Mat8876 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2014, 03:09:05 PM »

Canon is the fiction who ever said that the stories that Disney will make had to be canon because they are going over something that happened and they make a story completely different from it does not mean Disney will make a canon story.

Darman · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2014, 03:51:09 PM »

So is Wookiepedia going down now? Or parts of it being deleated?