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[engle99]

While that would be nice, keep in mind that the minidumps from the 2GB limit in the game are basically the equivalent of the freeze in EaW, only more avoidable since we know the circumstances up front.

I really hope this is avoidable in Ascendency, I bloody hate the freeze in EaW

[Corey]

The other thing with the PA, is that if we did do them I'd want to replace a pretty considerable amount of the content they have from ICW; pretty much all of the CIS stuff, really. Yeah, I bumped a year old thread. Get over it.

[Lord Xizer]

I want to turn Lusankya loose on the Vong at Borleias and thrash them with the Imperial Fleet at Bastion and Borosk

[Darman]

I agree. I find myself bever using CIS units when playing as PA. There are MANY redundancies within the faction which is annoying

[Slornie]

The other thing with the PA, is that if we did do them I'd want to replace a pretty considerable amount of the content they have from ICW; pretty much all of the CIS stuff, really. Yeah, I bumped a year old thread. Get over it.

Replace with what, though? Are there enough viable alternatives to make the PA distinct from the IR without resorting to the CW-leftovers?

[Revanchist]

Replace with what, though? Are there enough viable alternatives to make the PA distinct from the IR without resorting to the CW-leftovers?

There is the Gladiator-class (could replace the Munificent).

[Corey]

(FYI I split the LAA discussion off into its own topic)

I agree. I find myself bever using CIS units when playing as PA. There are MANY redundancies within the faction which is annoying

This is somewhat the case with most of the ICW factions, because in ICW there was an increased focus on the narrative and giving the players the tools to recreate certain storylines, which required having a bigger selection of units even though there was more overlap that way; usually mitigated at least to some extent by separating between eras. While there's a certain aspect of this in Ascendancy, it's not to the same extent or to the same degree. Even then, I still got literal hatemail for saying we weren't going to put in specific units, or cutting others; namely some Fractal Sponge designs and the  Republic Star Destroyer. This is also kind of exacerbated by the fact that Empire at War honestly isn't a great platform for having unit diversity, beyond different combinations of weapons. Abilities are basically limited to superlaser and the trinity of Power To abilities. There's not really much room for different roles. In Sins it's much different. Having ships with different speeds, for example, is an acceptable tradeoff whereas in EaW it's pretty much unthinkable that you'd sacrifice power just to get around faster; battles are always in the same place, and the galactic map is irrelevant once you're in battle. Sins' abilities and buff system are also much more usable to create difference even between otherwise very similar ships. Or even giving uses to ships that seem useless in ICW. Essentially what we're looking to do is get more variance within a smaller roster here.

Replace with what, though? Are there enough viable alternatives to make the PA distinct from the IR without resorting to the CW-leftovers?

First I'd distinguish between Clone Wars leftovers and CIS leftovers. I'm perfectly happy to retain a lot of the Republic leftovers, which would have continued to see use on the outer rim in what became the Pentastar Alignment. For example, it's hard to imagine us doing the Pentastar Alignment without the Acclamator and Venator (or Enforcer, which the IR never had anyways). This also brings up the point that overlapping with what's usually thought of as "Remnant" from an ICW perspective is not necessarily  Remnant in Ascendancy. Again, the Venator and Acclamator would be uniquely PA. There's also units like the Dominator, and if we moved the Praetor to the PA, the Remnant would get the Allegiance. Then, as some others have said, there's stuff we could use like the Gladiator, IPV-1, Escort Carrier. But still there would be a lot more overlap than any other factions have, and it could feel kind of forced. I'd still rather do the Vong, even if I'd rather not have to go through the hell of actually modeling their stuff.

[Lord Xizer]

I agree about the Vong