Favorite Military Manuefacturing Company

[vadereclipse]

meyer said it, not me
britain are better trained than USA, but uSA would win out of number

[Meyer]

so you say that usa would beat china in a war? Tell me how do you win in a nuclear war? everybody loses. both countries (china and usa) have enough nuclear weapons to pulverize each other in a war. and if you don't use nukes china has great advance in manpower. and chinas main income doesn't come usa. it comes from rich corporations all over the world. and russia too can destroy usa if they wish. of course usa would retaliate but it would only result in total destruction off both countries. And the reason why usa has failed in last few major scale wars, meaning Korea and Vietnam, is that they underestimated their enemy and their technology. And you're doing it again. China has as good technology as usa.

[Scarecrow63]

so you say that usa would beat china in a war? Tell me how do you win in a nuclear war? everybody loses. both countries (china and usa) have enough nuclear weapons to pulverize each other in a war. and if you don't use nukes china has great advance in manpower. and chinas main income doesn't come usa. it comes from rich corporations all over the world. and russia too can destroy usa if they wish. of course usa would retaliate but it would only result in total destruction off both countries. And the reason why usa has failed in last few major scale wars, meaning Korea and Vietnam, is that they underestimated their enemy and their technology. And you're doing it again. China has as good technology as usa.

China doesn't have as good as technology as the US, but its close enough that a doesn't make a huge difference
And the US military didn't fail in Korea and Vietnam, In Korea the last few months they were simply holding their line, which they did and is still there
In Vietnam the US won almost every single if not every military encounter worth noting against the North, the problem was the stupid hippies wanting everyone to go home

And sure china has alot of manpower, but i doubt they have the logistics to move them and supply them in a full scale invasion across an ocean

[Meyer]

this isn't the topic for this conversation.

and you're once again assuming something you don't know for sure. do you know the logistic capabilities of china? I doubt it. why? because china doesn't reveal that kind of info to anyone. You only assume that what you have been told in your school is the right thing and evertything else is wrong. like the idea that usa isn't as strong as it wants everyone to believe and that china and russia are much bigger threat to usa than is revealed. And only the result in war counts. in SW Empire won most important battles against rebellion before Endor but still rebels won the war. And I know that that wasn't the best example. because in history books it says that usa lost the war. and korean war. country with so big technological superiority was beaten by china armed with russian made weapons. you had beaten north korean army but when china came in you coulnd't beat them.

and we really should soon get back to topic.

[Scarecrow63]

Taught in school? my school doesn't teach me anything about wars or anything actually worth learning

And we could have beaten China, the president didnt want to invade though afraid that it would spark a nuclear war

[Meyer]

but why didn't you then just drive the chinese forces out of Korea? because you couldn't. because russian weapon manufacturers, MIG and Izhevsk Mechanical Works, made better weapons than american factories. just face it.

and if you want to continue please a different topic for that.

[Scarecrow63]

and didn't the chinese finish off sk? because they couldn't

and the Russian weps had nothing to do with it, there were just too many chinese, the russian stuff wasnt any better

[Meyer]

no they couldn'

[Scarecrow63]

how did it show to be better? by not winning? and you've given one thing, the ak, and yet you call all russian equipment better

[Meyer]

not to mention MIG-fighters and T-34 tanks for example.

[Scarecrow63]

they were no better, us planes had the better kill ratios

[Meyer]

yeah. but you also had fewer planes and your pilots had better training back then. and not even a good plane can compensate training.

[Scarecrow63]

so the US planes were outnumbered and still did better?
hmmm, why is it that migs are better again?

[Meyer]

why did german pilots got most kills in WWII while allies had better planes and germans were outnumbered? answer that and you answer your own question.

[Scarecrow63]

weren't you just saying German planes werre better?

[Meyer]

yes I said. but most yanks in here have made it quite clear that they think usa had the best planes in WWII. I don't believe it but let's assume I do.

[Scarecrow63]

still doesnt tell me y migs were better

[Meyer]

well they were if they were able to compete your planes even a decade later in Vietnam. Or do you claim that your plains were the same caliber in both wars?

[Scarecrow63]

what does that have to do with korea? if you're gonna say something is better back it up with some facts

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

Meyer has always talked out of his butt. The Korean War was not a full out invasion and that was 50 years ago. Viet Nam War once again not a full out invasion, and there was hippie propaganda. By the way, the MiGs were always copying the US planes. And if no one knows the names of those companies and no one bothers to care, why do you say they are the best?