Author Topic: Other factions wont do anything (Read 9631 times)

Singularity · « **on:** February 07, 2013, 03:44:13 PM »

HI there, I don't know if this has happened to anyone else, but both of the AI factions in my current game don't seem to be moving at all, or building anything for that matter, is there anything I can do to fix this?

Corey · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2013, 04:53:11 PM »

Has this been happening since the start of the GC or did it start at a later time?

Singularity · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2013, 05:09:30 PM »

No, it happened fairly recently, though they stopped at different times (PA first, then the NR later).

Corey · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2013, 05:16:03 PM »

How far into the GC? (Weeks, remaining planets) and difficulty?

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2013, 07:38:41 PM »

The NR AI does this on Shadow Hand GC.

Singularity · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2013, 08:15:29 PM »

The NR stopped at around Week 20.

Edit: I think it was something to do with me invading Dathomir, because I reloaded an earlier save and sure enough, tthe NR were moving their units around again.

Eclipse · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2013, 08:16:39 PM »

Seems they just gave up after seeing the Eclipse, and the Reaper...

Singularity · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2013, 08:38:38 PM »

It's happened again, this time its Week 25.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:37:42 PM »

Perhaps if the NR were given more starting forces when they are AI they would be a bit more aggressive?

yutpaeksi · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2013, 11:06:53 PM »

The AI could always use more starting forces. The main problem is that it doesn't consolidate their fleets and move them to border planets. Instead they like to station a few ships at every system. This means that you can grab several systems fairly easily, especially early on. The AI still tends to build things in this order: Golans -> Shipyards -> Ships

However, I imagine that if you give them a bunch of forces, they'll quickly mass a large fleet and hit the player hard. I'm all for that, but other might object.

Corey · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2013, 01:51:00 AM »

The NR is still hampered by the Fleet Commander thing causing them to shut themselves down occaisionally in some scenarios.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2013, 02:27:05 PM »

It could also be that the NR is just inherently poorly managed by it's corrupt and weak government that is always slow to respond to any crisis efficiently and this is reflected in it's AI lol. Not that I'm biased against the fools in the so called New Republic.

I remember that the docile nature of the AI is a result of the FC bug but it's still preferable to having hundreds of useless FCs flying around the GC.

Singularity · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:32:39 PM »

Retreating and using auto resolve seems to trigger it.

Without Reason · « **Reply #13 on:** April 08, 2013, 03:32:32 PM »

I'm having the same problem. The NR starts out fine by attacking and building some stuff but then it just stops. Even on the hardest difficulties it just sits there does nothing. I always auto resolve land battles and some space battles that I have no chance of winning. I'll do some testing and see if the AI starts to stagnate after I auto resolve a battle.

Does anyone know how the AI is controlled in EaW? Is it by values found in the ships/buildings XML files or is it done as one huge XML file?

Either way, I would like to play around with the code and see if I can get the AI working a bit more aggressively. If anyone can give me any hints or point me the right direction that would be awesome.

Lord Xizer · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2013, 08:28:15 PM »

The AI does still build some units I've found...only very few and far between. For instance in shadow hand they only build E wing squadrons.

Mat8876 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 09, 2013, 04:42:56 AM »

I think i know why. They never seem to build many mining facilitys so they don't bring the cash in to build anything.

Corey · « **Reply #16 on:** April 09, 2013, 04:59:00 AM »

It has nothing to do with cash; the AI innately makes more money than the player, so it doesn't need mining facilities. The key difference between the Easy/Medium/Hard levels in EaW is really just a modifier that changes income flow.

The NR AI has some issues in some GCs not because of the AI coding in itself, but because the game is still essentially trying to do the Fleet Commander spam thing. It thinks it's producing all of those, so it doesn't produce much else, and editing the actual AI code won't do anything. The majority of the AI code is in XML files that you can't edit properly. The game just won't load them. There's a few LUA Scripts where you can change some basic stuff, but there's very little modding that can be done to the AI in the game.

Eclipse · « **Reply #17 on:** April 09, 2013, 04:48:27 PM »

I know you've already mentioned it but what is fleet commander spwan thing? Sounds like a funny bug really

Corey · « **Reply #18 on:** April 09, 2013, 04:53:35 PM »

Eclipse · « **Reply #19 on:** April 09, 2013, 04:59:49 PM »

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