Author Topic: Disney buys Lucasfilm (Read 15162 times)

yutpaeksi · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2012, 03:30:12 AM »

<<preparing for the worst>>

...Maybe I'll become a Star Trek fan...

Thrashia · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2012, 04:36:57 AM »

There are a few things that I consider good about this:

1) Disney is a powerhouse and this could be a boon for Star Wars in getting more material out. (whether or not that material is good or bad will be determined later)

2) I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO SEE EPISODES VII-IX! w00t!

3) I believe that there should immediately be a petition online for getting Joss Whedon as a writer for the trilogy and Christopher Nolan as director. That dynamic of a duo would be awesome for this trilogy.

4) If they don't work off of the Thrawn trilogy...no one has yet seen the fury that will be unleashed upon Disney Land.

5) Disney is taking a huge risk in this. It has to face with promising to release Episode VII-IX. If they fuck up on it, then they will immediately alienate the core target audience for later films and won't gain as much money from later projects. So they have to make every possible action to get it right the first time.

6) I think that is a grand idea to have a Fan Advisor or (maybe it would be better to have a Fan Advisory Board) a group - so that one individual is never blamed for anything that isn't put into the movies - to be on scene during the writing of the film, its filming, and it's post production. That way all the fans can give in some input and Disney get's an immediate reaction to its decisions and can change them accordingly (or else).

EDIT: 7) Disney only bought Lucas Film, not the same company that made EaW so I think we're safe on the mod front.

Enceladus · « **Reply #22 on:** October 31, 2012, 10:36:42 AM »

Quote from: Thrashia on October 31, 2012, 04:36:57 AM

EDIT: 7) Disney only bought Lucas Film, not the same company that made EaW so I think we're safe on the mod front.

It's not Petroglyph that worries us when it comes to copyright enforcement since they have no jurisdiction over anything Star Wars beyond their own code/art assets; it's LucasArts/Film (LucasArts is now owned by Disney as well). They have every right to shut down all fan based material if they wanted. It wouldn't be the first time a company has shut down a mod over intellectual rights (ie. all BSG mods on ModDB, Halogen etc.).

Revanchist · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2012, 01:47:06 PM »

Quote from: Meyer on October 31, 2012, 03:16:51 AM

I too fear is that they completely ignore the existing EU and create their own kiddie version on the lines of CW.
But hopefully they make their episodes fit into the EU. Watching the Thrawn trilogy on the big screen would be a dream come true.

So it's time to hope the best and prepare for the worst.

Absolutely true, the Thrawn Trilogy would be awesome, but they could destroy everything that has been built since 1978. Let's face it, a lot of heretical fans (those that only believe in the unaltered IV-VI as canon) will hate it no matter what they do. People are already unhappy with the prequels for some reason, so in reality by announcing more Star Wars movies, Disney has put itself in a huge hole. It has to convince already doubting fans that its movies are worth watching as Star Wars. Therefore it would be in their best interests to, even if they don't base it on any of the books, at least not interfere with the EU. This will in my opinion make as many fans as possible like it. If they farm it, then Star Wars will be dead. The only problem I see in a Thrawn Trilogy is that the trilogy was more of a thinking man's war, and less BLAH!! LET'S BLOW UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND KILL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!, which is sadly the entertainment that most people enjoy today. In my opinion, even though I would love Thrawn, Disney would probably be safer with the Dark Empire saga, since it follows more of the scripted purely good or evil bit that people seem to enjoy; with Thrawn the distinction was always blurred.

Quote from: yutpaeksi on October 31, 2012, 03:30:12 AM

<<preparing for the worst>>

...Maybe I'll become a Star Trek fan...

Even if you don't become one, I suggest you watch Deep Space 9. It is much less of the Rottenberry perfect land, and a lot darker (especially the later seasons). The tone of this series reminds me of what a good Star Wars movie should be like.

Senza · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2012, 04:12:02 PM »

Quote from: revanchist on October 30, 2012, 08:36:58 PM

I hope you are joking about destroying EU being a good thing. Well, I'm felling kind of queasy to be honest after I read this. Disney is going to be treading on thin ice here, because if they mess up VII then Star Wars is pretty much dead. Since they are calling them 7,8 & 9 I assume that they take place after RotJ. If they do a Thrawn trilogy I will be thrilled (which is a possibility since it is believed that the trilogy might have originally been 7,8, & 9). If they destroy post-RotJ EU I will disown Star Wars and become a Trekkie (at least they have the guts to admit that any books are non canon).

You didn't look at what I said, I underlined the part where it said Lucas doesn't have creative control anymore. This is good. He's still on as a creative consultant, but.

Also, Star Wars has been getting kiddified more and more for years... don't get me started on what the Clone Wars tv show has done to the timeline. Just stick to your headcanon... it's pretty simple.

Revanchist · « **Reply #25 on:** October 31, 2012, 04:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Senza on October 31, 2012, 04:12:02 PM

You didn't look at what I said, I underlined the part where it said Lucas doesn't have creative control anymore. This is good. He's still on as a creative consultant, but.

Also, Star Wars has been getting kiddified more and more for years... don't get me started on what the Clone Wars tv show has done to the timeline. Just stick to your headcanon... it's pretty simple.

OK, I apologize that I misunderstood your meaning. And you are absolutely right about TCW, I hate it too. Now you know what I think is truly sad: the original trilogy was somewhat designed for children as well. I hate to admit it, but I don't think that many kids today would enjoy an Episode IV type movie. In my opinion, it is all these cartoons that children watch that are ruining them. They don't like good TV and movies anymore, and prefer things like TCW.

yutpaeksi · « **Reply #26 on:** October 31, 2012, 05:20:00 PM »

Rumors suggest that Episode VII will be an original story (read: not derived from the EU). So that's both good and bad. Good because it might mean that the EU might not be affected directly and that nothing will be contradicted or destroyed. Bad because that means there's almost definitely no chance of a Thrawn trilogy in live action.

Again, this is just another rumor, but sounds fairly solid:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story

Senza · « **Reply #27 on:** October 31, 2012, 05:29:58 PM »

I'm not surprised, and I don't really care. Everyone's got their own headcanon, I for instance find most everything in the Darth Krayt era to be stupid and rehashing and just pretend it isn't there, if someone else disagrees well that's fine, it's not like it's a big deal to me. Nobody can take headcanon from you, just stick to whatever version of Star Wars lore you like best. Matter, official canon does not! (slightly bad yoda grammar)

And Revan, it's okay, I understand, you probably weren't really looking for it. Think about it this way, even if Star Wars does get kiddified more than it already is, some day those kids are going to grow up, and just maybe more people will be interested in the more mature side of Star Wars! Eh? Food for thought.

Slornie · « **Reply #28 on:** October 31, 2012, 05:40:19 PM »

Quote from: yutpaeksi on October 31, 2012, 05:20:00 PM

Rumors suggest that Episode VII will be an original story (read: not derived from the EU). So that's both good and bad. Good because it might mean that the EU might not be affected directly and that nothing will be contradicted or destroyed.

It's equally likely that an "original story" will completely contradict the expanded universe. Although, the way the Disney press release talked about the size of the Star Wars universe, with tens of thousands of characters and thousands of planets, it is possible that they are perfectly aware of the audience dedicated to the expanded universe and will try to avoid alienating them.

mynameisyou · « **Reply #29 on:** October 31, 2012, 06:00:11 PM »

why would they make ther own story when use some one elses and pleseing the fans makes more money

Willhelm · « **Reply #30 on:** October 31, 2012, 08:19:51 PM »

Im most excited about what Disney land can do now.... star wars dogfight roller coaster anyone?? XD

Slornie · « **Reply #31 on:** November 02, 2012, 01:59:20 PM »

Just had another though: Does Disney/Lucasfilm have time to finish the 3D remastering of the remaining films before VII comes out? AotC and RotS are due out in 3D next year, but so far I haven't heard anything about the original trilogy.

Slornie · « **Reply #32 on:** November 03, 2012, 10:19:51 AM »

And on another note, here's an interview with Tomothy Zahn talking about the new film's potential.

Revanchist · « **Reply #33 on:** November 03, 2012, 11:27:04 AM »

So this is a good thing. The possibility of them ruining Thrawn has lessened and there's still a chance for the Trilogy after all. Personally, looking back at it, I think I found what they are going to do. Originally (supposedly) VII-IX were to be about the next generation, with an old Luke passing the Torch to someone else. I think that they will be set after FotJ, with an older Luke passing on the torch to Ben. I mean, look at it, it wouldn't even touch canon, be an original story, and follow the original plot of the sequels. Maybe that's why they don't have anything major planned to be written after FotJ.

Lavo · « **Reply #34 on:** November 05, 2012, 02:49:08 AM »

Quote from: Senza on October 31, 2012, 04:12:02 PM

Also, Star Wars has been getting kiddified more and more for years... don't get me started on what the Clone Wars tv show has done to the timeline. Just stick to your headcanon... it's pretty simple.

The first CW series, the non-CG hand-drawn 5-minute shorts one, wasn't half bad. The current one is quite... Terrible... To say the least. How well Disney will be to SW depends entirely on the plots of episodes 7-9; namely if they destroy the EU or not.

Thrashia · « **Reply #35 on:** November 05, 2012, 04:29:31 AM »

I would honestly be satisfied with them making their own story for 7-9 so long as they also agreed to do a solid 3 movies for the Thrawn trilogy. Even if its CGI or something. Seriously, that shit needs to be made.

Slornie · « **Reply #36 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:28:36 PM »

Quote from: Lavo on November 05, 2012, 02:49:08 AM

The first CW series, the non-CG hand-drawn 5-minute shorts one, wasn't half bad.

On this I have to respectfully disagree. The first CW cartoon was utterly terribad too. All the OTT Jedi powers got really boring really quickly.

Revanchist · « **Reply #37 on:** November 05, 2012, 06:53:21 PM »

Quote from: Slornie on November 05, 2012, 01:28:36 PM

On this I have to respectfully disagree. The first CW cartoon was utterly terribad too. All the OTT Jedi powers got really boring really quickly.

But at least there was very little preexisting canon to destroy.

Thrashia · « **Reply #38 on:** November 06, 2012, 01:46:54 AM »

Quote from: revanchist on November 05, 2012, 06:53:21 PM

But at least there was very little preexisting canon to destroy.

Point to revanchist.

Slornie · « **Reply #39 on:** November 06, 2012, 01:30:34 PM »

Quote from: revanchist on November 05, 2012, 06:53:21 PM

But at least there was very little preexisting canon to destroy.

That doesn't stop it being terrible. And even with the paucity of other Clone Wars canon around at the time it was created, they still managed to screw stuff up.

However, on a completely unrelated note. I wish this t-shirt wasn't only for women: