Author Topic: better reason to become a sith lord (Read 20540 times)

Meyer · « **on:** July 09, 2007, 05:05:56 AM »

Which one had better reason to become a sith lord? Anakin Skywalker or Jacen Solo?

Slornie · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:36:21 AM »

I think that Jacen had a better reason for becoming Sith, but i dont think that it was the best decision he could have made.

Anakin became Sith because he felt it was the only way he could save Padme, and because Palpatine twisted his mind against the Jedi.

Jacen became Sith because he felt it was the only way he could save the galaxy, you could also say that Lumiya twisted his mind to some extent.

Meyer · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2007, 07:27:39 AM »

But at least Anakin didn't directly kill anyone who he either loved or was related to.

Slornie · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2007, 07:34:12 AM »

How far off was he from directly killing Padme ? He force-choked her, and then she lost the will to live.

What about Obi-Wan ? He certainly looked like he wanted to kill him.

Or the other Jedi in the Temple ? Surely he knew some of them.

Meyer · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2007, 08:19:13 AM »

But he didn't love them or wasn't related to anyone of them. And how did Jacen come up with the idea that becoming sith will save the Galaxy?

Slornie · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2007, 08:33:29 AM »

Quote from: Meyer on July 09, 2007, 08:19:13 AM

But he didn't love them or wasn't related to anyone of them.

So he wasnt in love or related to Padme ? And you dont consider being Obi-Wan's padawan related ?

Quote from: Meyer on July 09, 2007, 08:19:13 AM

And how did Jacen come up with the idea that becoming sith will save the Galaxy?

I think that was partly Lumiya twisting his mind. Wasnt there also something about his Force visions of the future, and the only ones with peace were if he became Sith ?

Meyer · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2007, 08:54:51 AM »

I meant he didn't love those other jedi in the temple.

Din't Anakin also see that Padme would die if he wouldn't do anything.
And as Yoda said it: Always in motion the future is. So Jacen had nothing to support that him becoming sith would save the Galaxy. And I believe he wanted to save Tenel Ka and Allana, not the Galaxy.

Slornie · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2007, 09:05:29 AM »

Well, Anakin had a vision of Padme dying, and he misread it, in that it only came to pass because he became Sith. In all probability if he hadnt been twisted by Palpatine she wouldnt have died.

Yes, the future is always in motion, every little action (or inaction) influences it.

For Jacen, the path to becoming a Sith started when he killed his fellow Jedi (because he interpreted his visions to mean that it was the only way to avoid some cataclysmic event). Sure, he wanted to protect Tenel Ka and Allana, but he felt the best way to do that was to ensure the safety/order of the galaxy, so saving the galaxy from the cataclysm he had foreseen would enable him to protect those he loved.

Sorry if that last bit is a bit muddled, im not 100% sure i know what im trying to say

Meyer · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2007, 09:17:44 AM »

I bet that in the future books of LotF that event Jacen tried to prevent from happening happens. And he will die as all traitors will die.

GrndAdmrlPellaeon · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2007, 11:47:08 AM »

I think that Anikin had a better reason. becoming a Sith for anyone has never saved the galaxy. At least Anakin knew what he wanted. Jacen just made an excuse. that he would save the galaxy by killing good people. no. the galaxy has vever been 'saved' by making sacrifices to the 'gods.'

Meyer · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:16:07 PM »

Exactly. Anakin reason was more human and understandable. Why couldn't Jacen work with rest of the jedi to save the Galaxy?

Kratas · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:26:21 PM »

all jacen dit was tear the galaxy apart piece by piece

Meyer · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:36:26 PM »

I think so. And he will propably assassinate Cha Niathal when he doesn't need her.

Kratas · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2007, 09:56:31 AM »

it wouldnt surprise me if anakin killed jacen

back to topic on the lego game sith are definetly better they can do everything jedi can do and more

Slornie · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:29:30 AM »

Quote from: Commander Kratas on July 10, 2007, 09:56:31 AM

it wouldnt surprise me if anakin killed jacen

Isnt Anakin dead ?

Quote from: Commander Kratas on July 10, 2007, 09:56:31 AM

back to topic on the lego game sith are definetly better they can do everything jedi can do and more

Err, wasnt the topic about whether Jacen or Anakin had better reason for becoming Sith ?

Meyer · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:35:03 AM »

at least it was supposed to be. And yes Anakin is dead. So how can he kill Jacen?

Slornie · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:55:00 AM »

I suppose someone could rebuild Anakin Sal-Solo..

Meyer · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2007, 04:07:49 PM »

Unlikely but perhaps. I thought that maybe Anakins force spirit has something to do with it.

GrndAdmrlPellaeon · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2007, 09:40:14 PM »

Possibly, why cant Luke slaughter him. Hes the most powerful jedi ever, in my opoinion.

Meyer · « **Reply #19 on:** July 11, 2007, 04:12:19 AM »

After Anakin, that is true.