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June 08, 2012, 06:35:35 PM

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Fleet Composition
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:35:35 PM »
I was curious to see every ones' favorite and ideal fleet make-up whether it be for fun or just a very sound fleet (for any faction)!

Since I have most of my experience with the IR I have to say it is a bunch of Katana Dreadnoughts with a couple Lancer and Strike cruisers as support with an ISD-II at the lead is fun to play with.

I'd love input from other factions since I'd like to start a campaign as each faction fairly soon.

Thanks!  =D
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June 08, 2012, 07:07:07 PMReply #1

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 07:07:07 PM »
A few tectors and VSD Is and IIs and Escort Carriers can destroy the Strongest of NR or EotH fleets with most of their heroes in them.
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June 08, 2012, 08:34:22 PMReply #2

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 08:34:22 PM »
SSD, two ISDIIs, 4 VSDIIs and a few Lancers with an interdictor or two.
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June 08, 2012, 08:44:15 PMReply #3

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 08:44:15 PM »
A few tectors and VSD Is and IIs and Escort Carriers can destroy the Strongest of NR or EotH fleets with most of their heroes in them.

Hm. Sounds interesting, but id it a challenge or just steamroll everything?
SSD, two ISDIIs, 4 VSDIIs and a few Lancers with an interdictor or two.

Strangely enough that is very close to my main fleet though at times it had 2 SSDs in it...though it no longer became much of a challenge.
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June 08, 2012, 09:08:49 PMReply #4

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 09:08:49 PM »
My fleet is made to Steamroll a Fleet that Includes Wedge Antilles. Essentially Steamroll a very large Fleet.
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June 08, 2012, 10:16:09 PMReply #5

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 10:16:09 PM »
my Flagship, the Red Dawn 2 ISDII's, 1 Eclipse, 1 SSD, 4 lancers

best fleet ever

June 09, 2012, 12:34:51 AMReply #6

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 12:34:51 AM »
I'll generally have 3-4 ISD II's, with a few VSD II's and some lancers.  Early on I use escort carriers instead of lancers.  Then when I can I usually throw an SSD in the mix in case I run into a major obstacle.
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June 09, 2012, 12:52:56 AMReply #7

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 12:52:56 AM »
It depends on the situation. I tend to use newer more powerful units for assault fleets and older ships for garrison fleets. Either way the foundation of my fleets is a three ISDs, one of which is an Interdictor SD. The Immobilizer frigate is one of the worst units in the game, fields no squadrons, can't fight worth a damn and takes up 3 pop. I've found that fielding more than three ISDs is cumbersome and really not that necessary. Their best aspect is actually their ability to take punishment, rather than their damage dealing capabilities.

For escorts I go real heavy on lancer frigates and carrack cruisers (5-6 of each). They're cheap, easily replaceable, and each take up only 1 pop. Then I try to get something like 4-5 VSDs (either model). That's already 34-39 pop. I try to make my garrison fleets exactly 40 pop. That way, when you get attacked you basically get to dictate every ship that's available, ensuring that you have the right mixture you want, and not have to say, wait until one of your escort carriers gets blown up before you can bring in a strike cruiser instead. Anyway, if I have some pop capacity to get to 40, I tend to flesh it out with strike cruisers, which are also cheap and pack a punch and give you a couple of fighters, or dreadnaughts or TIE Defenders.

For my assault fleets I use a ratio of big capital ships to escorts, something along the lines of (per ISD):

2 Lancers
2 Carracks
2 strike cruisers/Katana Dreadnaughts (regular dreadnaughts aren't good enough to fit in my assault fleets, too slow to flank, too weak for a standoff unit)
1.5 VSDs
2 TIE Defender squadrons

I've found that this sort of mix allows you to have enough ships on hand to do quick flanking maneuvers, provides a good mix of fighters/interceptors, and also gives you the flexibility to handle almost anything. SSDs have no place in my fleets, at best they're used for garrisons. Useless things. Also, since TIE bombers are god awful, I like to have the Defenders on hand. Really the IR is the only force that I feel requires lots of capital ship fighting. With both the NR and EotH, you can not keep your capital ships out of the engagement and let your fighters and bombers do all the work. That's why I tend to carry so many lancer frigates.

Carrack cruisers are also very underrated. They're fast, cheap, carry ion cannons as well as turbolasers, and take only 1 pop you can create a small taskgroup of like 4 or 5 of them and basically just run circles around some of the larger ships. Yeah they'll take damage, but again, they're cheap and fast enough to fly by, unload two or three volleys at an MC80, and then get away before blowing up. Then just take the unharmed ones and cut back the other way.
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June 09, 2012, 01:48:30 AMReply #8

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 01:48:30 AM »
My fleet is made to Steamroll a Fleet that Includes Wedge Antilles. Essentially Steamroll a very large Fleet.

That would indeed be a very effective means of doing that.

I'll generally have 3-4 ISD II's, with a few VSD II's and some lancers.  Early on I use escort carriers instead of lancers.  Then when I can I usually throw an SSD in the mix in case I run into a major obstacle.

Sounds like a good solid task force

my Flagship, the Red Dawn 2 ISDII's, 1 Eclipse, 1 SSD, 4 lancers

best fleet ever

Just...so much firepower. But what model ship is the Red Dawn?

And Yutpaeksi, I'd quote you but that is a lot of space. I am a big fan of how you manage your population and fleets. I never really gave much thought to garrisoned forces, as I had my larger fleets run patrol around borderline planets, though it became tedious at times. I also LOVE the Carrack cruiser, as well as the Strike (I believe its called) cruiser. At the start of Art of War that is really all I used, very cheap and effective indeed.
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June 09, 2012, 01:49:25 AMReply #9

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 01:49:25 AM »
If I'm trying to win? 30 Quasars/Endurances/MTCs/Escort Carriers/Au'riettes/Acclamators/Venators. Spamming fighters and bombers is just far too good, and you barely ever have to replace any ships.

June 09, 2012, 02:40:36 AMReply #10

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 02:40:36 AM »
Strangely enough that is very close to my main fleet though at times it had 2 SSDs in it...though it no longer became much of a challenge.

My fleet is tailored to my strategy. The ISDIIs are jumped in and advance clearing the fog of war and securing the future Interdictor position, destroying the advance enemy corvettes. The TIE Interceptors fly on ahead to clear the fog of war on the enemy fleet as it heads back to it's station(which they ALWAYS do at the start of the battle) I then jump the SSD right into the center rear of the enemy fleet wreaking havoc and dividing the enemy as well as massively clearing the fog of war. The 4 VSDIIs are then brought in two on each side of the SSD with the enemy forces between them in a crossfire. The interdictors then jump in between the ISDIIs at the rear to trap the enemy. The Lancers are brought in on the outside of the VSDIIs and advance inward shredding fighters while the VSDIIs mop up any remnants of the enemy fleet. The SSD moves forward crushing the defense platforms and destroy the station. As the enemy plots the retreat wait until the last second before powering up the generators trapping them. This way you get 9.5 seconds of free fire on the enemy. This strategy is flexible, the fleet composition suited to any situation or enemy force.
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June 09, 2012, 03:55:43 AMReply #11

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 03:55:43 AM »
My fleet is tailored to my strategy. The ISDIIs are jumped in and advance clearing the fog of war and securing the future Interdictor position, destroying the advance enemy corvettes. The TIE Interceptors fly on ahead to clear the fog of war on the enemy fleet as it heads back to it's station(which they ALWAYS do at the start of the battle) I then jump the SSD right into the center rear of the enemy fleet wreaking havoc and dividing the enemy as well as massively clearing the fog of war. The 4 VSDIIs are then brought in two on each side of the SSD with the enemy forces between them in a crossfire. The interdictors then jump in between the ISDIIs at the rear to trap the enemy. The Lancers are brought in on the outside of the VSDIIs and advance inward shredding fighters while the VSDIIs mop up any remnants of the enemy fleet. The SSD moves forward crushing the defense platforms and destroy the station. As the enemy plots the retreat wait until the last second before powering up the generators trapping them. This way you get 9.5 seconds of free fire on the enemy. This strategy is flexible, the fleet composition suited to any situation or enemy force.

Very solid. I always liked having the fog of war cleared up by one of my ISDIIs and it's interceptors, Then I'd have the SSD exit hyperspace on top of them, bordering the SSD with the other two ISDIIs and Trap with an Interdictor...the rest of the fleet make-up would kinda be on the fly.

Though the IR is spectacular...any rebel fleet styles? Hah...other than spam bombers and fighters of course, the AI rocks at that one.
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June 09, 2012, 01:11:37 PMReply #12

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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 01:11:37 PM »
That would indeed be a very effective means of doing that.

Sounds like a good solid task force

Just...so much firepower. But what model ship is the Red Dawn?

And Yutpaeksi, I'd quote you but that is a lot of space. I am a big fan of how you manage your population and fleets. I never really gave much thought to garrisoned forces, as I had my larger fleets run patrol around borderline planets, though it became tedious at times. I also LOVE the Carrack cruiser, as well as the Strike (I believe its called) cruiser. At the start of Art of War that is really all I used, very cheap and effective indeed.


the Red Dawn is a red ISDII and can take on about 2 or 3 ISDIIs. it has some of my own custom squadrons and TIE Droid squadrons

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2012, 04:43:34 PM »
the Red Dawn is a red ISDII and can take on about 2 or 3 ISDIIs. it has some of my own custom squadrons and TIE Droid squadrons

Whoa nice. Wish I could make custom ships. That'd be pretty sweet.
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June 09, 2012, 08:18:13 PMReply #14

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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2012, 08:18:13 PM »
Though the IR is spectacular...any rebel fleet styles? Hah...other than spam bombers and fighters of course, the AI rocks at that one.

I never play as the NR(I hold the entire civilization and government in contempt other than Bel Iblis, Wedge Antilles, Rogues, Wraiths and Kyle Katarn.

I have some good EotH strategies. Jump in some Clawcraft squadrons to clear fog of war as they fly along the right and left side of map. Jump in 2 Syndics, 1 interdictor and Acendancies on each side. Jump a diversion group of corvettes and gunships in the center to draw the enemy to you. Use the superior fighters and corvettes to lure in enemy fleets after them with syndics and ascendencies on either side of the map converging like the jaws of a predator to squeeze them in a crossfire. focus on attacking the rear and sides of the enemy fleet to maximize damage to them and minimize your risk. Turn the fighters around and send them among the enemy as needed. This way you can devastate larger fleets this way with minimal casualties. After the enemy fleet is done concentrate on each defense station with fighters and bombers before engaging with heavy ships. Then finish the shipyard at your leisure.
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June 09, 2012, 08:35:57 PMReply #15

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 08:35:57 PM »
If you make a fleet of Auriettes as in about a whole mob of them 10-15 of them you can use their fighter compliments to take out the biggest enemy fleet and use the carriers to take out the corvette ships.
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June 09, 2012, 08:46:12 PMReply #16

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2012, 08:46:12 PM »
I never play as the NR(I hold the entire civilization and government in contempt other than Bel Iblis, Wedge Antilles, Rogues, Wraiths and Kyle Katarn.

I'm going to have to agree there, though I also like Gar Stazi. For the strategy sounds good, though it seemed to me that the EotH things are similar to the IR, the difference being the better star fighter choices and less damage soaking Capital Ships

If you make a fleet of Auriettes as in about a whole mob of them 10-15 of them you can use their fighter compliments to take out the biggest enemy fleet and use the carriers to take out the corvette ships.

I do love Mob tactics, always interesting to run circles around fleets...but I do prefer capital ship warfare
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June 09, 2012, 08:52:31 PMReply #17

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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2012, 08:52:31 PM »
I usually Make specific fleets for specific jobs the Tecor fleet i mentioned before and the Carrier Mob which can be used for the NR also (Coronas, Quasars, Endurances, and Sacheens) I make other fleets as well such as my NR Imp leader killing Fleet which i wont be revealing because i dont remember it.
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Re: Fleet Composition
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2012, 08:59:22 PM »
I usually Make specific fleets for specific jobs the Tecor fleet i mentioned before and the Carrier Mob which can be used for the NR also (Coronas, Quasars, Endurances, and Sacheens) I make other fleets as well such as my NR Imp leader killing Fleet which i wont be revealing because i dont remember it.

I did the same, I had a specific patrol fleet of ISDIIs and Dreadnaughts and hero hunters with a SSD and a couple SDs, one of which being an interdictor, I'd just explore Rebel space until I came across my prey, I had great joy finding and taking on Ackbar  8)
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June 09, 2012, 09:04:20 PMReply #19

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2012, 09:04:20 PM »
In my Multi-purpose fleets or other non specific fleets i use an Immobilizer and an Interdictor ISD i use the IISDs grav well if the Immobilizer is destroyed when im versing an important rebel or Eoth fleet.
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