one of the worst things to happen in star wars universe

[knorssman]

in my opinion its the obsession with "smugglers" smuggling is illegal transportation of goods or people, which should make them enemies of "the good guys" as well, whether they be the old republic, rebellion, or the new republic.

of course this happened because Han Solo was so popular, but he was an exception who ended up joining the rebel cause, but does that obligate all smugglers to be good guys, and after encountering all the other "good guy smugglers" it can take away from the significance of Han Solo joining the rebel cause, it was a surprise to see han come to the fight at the death star at the last second to save luke and not take the money and run, now whenever i see a smuggler i know instantly, hes a good guy...

it seems the authors of the star wars extended universe books couldn't hold back either from automatically making smuggling OK as well (don't want to spoil too much)

may just be my raging but does anyone have anything else to add to this topic?

[Mazzic]

If they weren't so cool what would I use for a username?

[Lord Xizer]

Well to be fair, there are both good and bad smugglers in the SW EU. Take Niles Ferrier and his group, the Hutts, the Corporate Sector, Black Sun. The "Good" smugglers are actually in the minority if you count all these characters and organizations and most of the "good" smugglers are basically forced into that role by circumstance from neutral or uncaring roles to begin with.

[theapprentice13]

Jar Jar Binks is hands down the worst thing to happen to Star Wars lol

[Rovert10]

Good smugglers are in the minority yes but the more memorable ones that do "good" things like "smugglers breaking a Mandalorian blockade" 

[bobatbob]

i think it was the creation of Jar Jar Binks, C-3PO, and R2-D2

[TheShinHado]

i think it was the creation of Jar Jar Binks, C-3PO, and R2-D2

3PO and R2 ARE Star Wars. Without R2, there would not be Jedi Knight Luke, no transmission from Leia, all that good stuff. Without 3PO, no kickass storytelling to the Ewoks on Endor, no 6 million forms of communication, you know where I'm going with this.

Jar Jar, to me, had a  decent character development in Attack of the Clones as Padme's Advisor and Representative of Naboo.

[jimbobhickman]

In the EO... Death of Anakin Solo

[tarvos]

Over all? The Death of the Empire. The rebellion gaining "freedom" for everyone lead to the deaths of billions more in the EU than would have probably died had the Empire faced the Vong head on.

[Lord Xizer]

Not to mention the explosion of Warlordism, the Yevethan Purge, the Corellian Insurrection, Kyp Durron's Rampage, and like you mentioned the Yuuzhan Vong. The Galaxy was MUCH better of under the security of the Galactic Empire.(of course I confess myself a bit biased on the subject as I am a Loyal Son of the Empire)
The NR just replaced order with anarchy and soft bellied political corruption. What was needed was strength, order and leadership, all of which the NR lacked and the New Order and Empire of the Hand had in abundance. 

[Kratas]

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Padme dieing of a broken heart.

Jar Jar Binks

Battle Droids chatting nonchalantly.

Greedo shooting first.

[Commander Kalic]

To get back to the smuggler point, the reason smuggler where "the good guys" to the rebellion is because they where such an integral part of their logistics system during the galactic civil war. To the rebellion the smugglers where their cargo transporters and suppliers, so the fact we tend to see them in a positive light is no surprise to me. And to reiterate a point brought up by  Lord Xiser

Well to be fair, there are both good and bad smugglers in the SW EU. Take Niles Ferrier and his group, the Hutts, the Corporate Sector, Black Sun. 

There are a considerable number of bad smugglers out there if you just look.

[Willhelm]

Storm troopers being portrayed as totally useless, they were practically the best troops in the galaxy, they shoudnt be getting even touched by rebel troops or ewoks for that matter.

[Slornie]

Storm troopers being portrayed as totally useless, they were practically the best troops in the galaxy, they shoudnt be getting even touched by rebel troops or ewoks for that matter.

This. Start of ANH, Stormtroopers are the best marksmen in the galaxy (according to Kenobi). Rest of the trilogy and they can't even hit a glancing blow on anyone of significance.

[fFoxfire]

The fact pod racing wasn't bigger I tended to like Lucas idea that having two jet engines tied together by a force and connected to the pilot's pod, because i hated Swoop bike racing in KOTR, always seems to me that drag racing in Sci Fi loses its allure

[Znieh]

In my opinion the worse "thing" to ever happen in the Star Wars Universe is Palpatine. All the troubles of the movies and the EU is either directly or indirectly due to this man. The Death Stars and every super weapon created by the Empire and the death and waste of resources they caused, The Galactic Civil War, and even the fall of my beloved Empire was due to him; The Empire would of one The Battle of Endor hands down if Palpatine hadn't been a power hungry piece of Sith who wanted to have a show instead of a battle. The only good thing to come out of him was the creation of the Empire, which didn't become truly good until it was purified in the fires of the Remnant.

[Lord Xizer]

Ah but much of the GOOD was also linked to Palpatine(albeit indirectly) The massive military buildup and years of War helped brace the galaxy somewhat for the Yuuzhan Vong, the EotH could never have been if Thrawn hadn't been picked up by the Empire and had access to it's wealth of resources via Palpatine, the eventual removal of the corrupt senate, the dismantlement of  massive monopolies like the Trade Federation, Commerce Guild and such. the near total eradication of Black Sun and the Bando Gora were his doing as well.
Also how boring would the series be without old Palps contributions? It would have been called Star Peace and I doubt we'd be making mods of THAT. So be thankful for the Emperor.

[Znieh]

I guess your right, a lot of Palpatine's actions did lead indirectly to some good things. I guess Palpatine is like Hitler in the sense that Hitler is the most influential person of the 20th century, and Palpatine the most influential person in a whole bunch of eras.
I still don't like him, with his lack of knowledge on military tactics, his love of wasteful super weapons, and his wrinkly face. 

[Lord Xizer]

Yes I agree with you there, I'm much more of a Thrawn or Pellaeon fan myself instead of Palps.

[tlmiller]

Yes I agree with you there, I'm much more of a Thrawn or Pellaeon fan myself instead of Palps.

My 2 favorite people from the entire SW universe there.