Author Topic: Mon Calamari ships (Read 26877 times)

Meyer · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2007, 10:08:37 AM »

your propably right. But it doesn't matter if they have hangars in the game then all is fine

Corey · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:34:28 PM »

We will be going for as close as canon fighter compliments as we can, regardless of how 'overpowerd' the fighters themselves might be. Keep in mind that the Mon Calamari Cruisers can ONLY be built at Mon Calamari. They are also extremely expensive, and take a long time to build, so them getting fighters with these expensive and relatively weak ships is only fair.

Darth Dino · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2007, 07:55:30 PM »

Mon Cal ships aren't weak...

Corey · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2007, 07:56:46 PM »

Compared to most other capital ships they are.

Darth Dino · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2007, 08:01:17 PM »

Not in my eyes, I think that they aren't as strong as Star Destroyers but they're still not weak.

Meyer · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2007, 12:57:04 AM »

No they are not weak, in fact I find them quite useful if there is many of them.
When you say they are going to be expensive I hope that other ships too will be expensive.
But I also hope that you don't make Dreadnaught more expensive MCC, like some mods that I have played have done.

Slornie · « **Reply #26 on:** May 24, 2007, 03:53:45 AM »

in comparison with the Imperial capital ships, they Mon Cal Cruisers are quite weak, particularly during the Rebellion, when they were mainly converted liners. This weakness is increased when you factor in that they are much more expensive than the Imperial capital ships - in essence you are paying more for a weaker ship. But either way, it certainly makes Mon Calamari a big target for both/all factions.

Meyer · « **Reply #27 on:** May 24, 2007, 11:22:26 AM »

Only thing better in MCCs than ISDs was their shields.

Slornie · « **Reply #28 on:** May 24, 2007, 11:29:01 AM »

and part of that was because they had weak hulls (most of them were converted civillian ships after all), and the redundancy of having several weaker shields combined instead of one very powerful shield

Meyer · « **Reply #29 on:** May 24, 2007, 11:36:16 AM »

But didn't rebels add armor plating?

Slornie · « **Reply #30 on:** May 24, 2007, 11:41:12 AM »

they wont have added that much, they didnt have the time nor resources for it, and even with armour plating the hulls will still be weaker than a specially designed/made hull

Meyer · « **Reply #31 on:** May 24, 2007, 12:54:27 PM »

True. Maybe their commanders just were better.

Corey · « **Reply #32 on:** May 24, 2007, 04:24:02 PM »

Eh? What do you mean, MCCs would rarely (if ever) win a fight with a Star Destroyer during the Rebellion.

insanegolfer · « **Reply #33 on:** May 24, 2007, 04:25:38 PM »

They would never win a straight up fight. The rebels were sneaky enough that they hit the Empire where they were weak.

Meyer · « **Reply #34 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:46:59 AM »

But still rebels won every major and decisive battle in the Civil War. Battles of Yavin, Endor, Bilbringi.
They won the Battle of Endor even when Imperials had much bigger fleet. So there has to be reason why they won. Althought I hope Imperials had won those battles.

Slornie · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:27:11 AM »

The Battle of Yavin was a fluke, everyone knows that - if Hand and Chewie hadnt blasted Vader away, Luke wouldn't have had time to fire those proton torpedoes, so no destroyed Death Star, which means one dead Rebellion (and Yavin IV).

As for the Battle of Endor, there were (in my eyes) three key points to this victory - first, the shield generator on the Executor was destroyed, leaving it open to that Accidental bridge ramming by the A-Wing - that ship was the single largest threat to the Rebel forces after the Second Death Star. Secondly, Thrawn's theory - Palpatine was using the force to enhance his soldiers battle efficiency, when he was distracted (and then killed) the battle enhancement was lost - leading to a lack of coordination and mass confusion among the imperial officers and crews - which the Rebel forces were able to exploit. Third, when the Second Death Star itself was destroyed, that was a huge morale blow to the remaining Imperial forces, leading to the disjointed and uncoordinated retreat.

The Battle of Bilbringi was planned by Thrawn, it was going well for him until the ships of the Smugglers Alliance joined forces with the New Republic fleet (resulting in New Republic ships loose inside the Imperial defence perimeter). Even then, he could have pulled off a victory - he had that cloaked Golan defence platform somewhere around. The only reason the Imperials lost that battle was because Rukh assassinated Thrawn, and Pallaeon was not experienced and tactically adept enough to maintain the battle.
This battle is discussed in this thread: http://gutr.swrebellion.com/forums/index.php?topic=127.0

As for the Mon Calamari ships, by the time of the New Republic - the new warship designs were being produced, which to all accounts could stand up to the Imperial Star Destroyers.

Meyer · « **Reply #36 on:** May 25, 2007, 05:31:22 AM »

Even the morale down hey were experienced crews on those Imperial ships. they should have won the day.

insanegolfer · « **Reply #37 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:24:55 AM »

Please stay on topic. That should be in a topic for the battle of Bilbringi.

Meyer · « **Reply #38 on:** May 25, 2007, 01:32:48 PM »

All what is said up there confirms to me that there was something good in MC80s against ISDs

Corey · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:18:28 PM »

The outcome at endor had very little to do with the MCCs... Definately not with superior Rebel commanders.... There were four Grand Admirals there.

Author Topic: Mon Calamari ships (Read 26877 times)

Darth Dino

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