A WHAT IF scenario. Yuuzhan Vong vs Galactic Empire(Rebellion never happened)

[z741]

personally i play imps or EotH in this mod and in vanilla as well as other mods

I think palp was way too overconfident and the empire needed another leader.

However, if the Empire had spread news of the Vong to the known galaxy and had Thrawn lead the imperial effort to defeat the Vong, there would not have been so many casualties.

The empire had the tools. they had the DSI and DSII the eclipses and the soverign SSDs with superlasers.

The rebels should have thought about why the imps were building fleets made for massive space battles and a massive army to counter ground assaults.

Veers could have lead the army if he didnt die and probably would have made the AT-ATs more powerful. A rumor in the galaxy was that his AT-AT MKIIs were going to field turbolasers of ISDII grade but im not too sure about that.

Why was the empire defeated? because the rebels allowed "aliens" into their military ranks.

EotH did this as well.

palp was stupid and too damned power hungry to be any good.

[Lord Xizer]

personally i play imps or EotH in this mod and in vanilla as well as other mods

I think palp was way too overconfident and the empire needed another leader.

However, if the Empire had spread news of the Vong to the known galaxy and had Thrawn lead the imperial effort to defeat the Vong, there would not have been so many casualties.

The empire had the tools. they had the DSI and DSII the eclipses and the soverign SSDs with superlasers.

The rebels should have thought about why the imps were building fleets made for massive space battles and a massive army to counter ground assaults.

Veers could have lead the army if he didnt die and probably would have made the AT-ATs more powerful. A rumor in the galaxy was that his AT-AT MKIIs were going to field turbolasers of ISDII grade but im not too sure about that.

Why was the empire defeated? because the rebels allowed "aliens" into their military ranks.

EotH did this as well.

palp was stupid and too damned power hungry to be any good.

I always play the Imperials or Warlords(even in all the SW EU books I normally read all the Imperial chapters and viewpoints and often skip the heroes VPs, except the Thrawn and X wing series.)

If the Empire had spread news of the Vong(with NO evidence they existed other than palps and Thrawn's word) people wouldn't have believed it, they would have thought it a mere excuse to further tighten the Imperial hold on the galaxy.

The Empire did indeed have the tools and a decent amount of know how on using them, say what you will but Kaine, Zsinj, Syn, Grunger, Grant, Teshik, Pitta, Veers, Covell, and of course Thrawn were all brilliant tacticians and loyal while Palps lived. Harrsk, Teradoc and Delvardus for that matter were actually not bad tacticians (having survived 7 straight years of constant warfare with the NR and each other)though they were nightmarishly egotistical and short sighted. 

Palpatine was far to overconfident(I think finding out how to transfer his essence and achieve immortality probably was the final feather in his cap there) but he did have a lot of realistic and competent officers of the fleet and army.

The Empire's oppression of Alien species was truly it's undoing more than any other factor.

[mynameisyou]

True dat

[z741]

I always play the Imperials or Warlords(even in all the SW EU books I normally read all the Imperial chapters and viewpoints and often skip the heroes VPs, except the Thrawn and X wing series.)

If the Empire had spread news of the Vong(with NO evidence they existed other than palps and Thrawn's word) people wouldn't have believed it, they would have thought it a mere excuse to further tighten the Imperial hold on the galaxy.

The Empire did indeed have the tools and a decent amount of know how on using them, say what you will but Kaine, Zsinj, Syn, Grunger, Grant, Teshik, Pitta, Veers, Covell, and of course Thrawn were all brilliant tacticians and loyal while Palps lived. Harrsk, Teradoc and Delvardus for that matter were actually not bad tacticians (having survived 7 straight years of constant warfare with the NR and each other)though they were nightmarishly egotistical and short sighted. 

Palpatine was far to overconfident(I think finding out how to transfer his essence and achieve immortality probably was the final feather in his cap there) but he did have a lot of realistic and competent officers of the fleet and army.

The Empire's oppression of Alien species was truly it's undoing more than any other factor.

the outbound flight found them i believe and so did the chiss ascendancy. the chiss could have done some research into them for the empire. with that proof that might have united the galaxy. yeah the xenophobia killed the empire not the EotH. i honestly believe the Alliance/NR really f***ed everything up. tarkin and his directive of power through fear was really flawed. the empire should have lived on. hell if the NR used more of the imperial tech they might have turned the vong back. and propaganda is always a nice tool

[Lord Xizer]

the outbound flight found them i believe and so did the chiss ascendancy. the chiss could have done some research into them for the empire. with that proof that might have united the galaxy. yeah the xenophobia killed the empire not the EotH. i honestly believe the Alliance/NR really f***ed everything up. tarkin and his directive of power through fear was really flawed. the empire should have lived on. hell if the NR used more of the imperial tech they might have turned the vong back. and propaganda is always a nice tool

Indeed.

[z741]

honestly though i must ask what if luke was to stay turned and lead the empire against the vong? what would happen then 

[mynameisyou]

Epic win!

[z741]

haha

[Lord Xizer]

honestly though i must ask what if luke was to stay turned and lead the empire against the vong? what would happen then 

He still would have been subservient to Palpatine so it would have been the same basic strategy most likely.

[Revanchist]

He still would have been subservient to Palpatine so it would have been the same basic strategy most likely.

Yes, but for how long. It would have been about 15 years (I think) since he would have been turned, plenty of time to initiate the Rule of Two's most important mandate. Also, Palps may not have been able to find a suitable body.

[Lord Xizer]

This is a point as Jax had already sabotaged most of his usable clones by that time and the treacherous nature of most Imperial leaders would have made power struggles and assassination attempts common. Luke might well have deposed old palps.