A WHAT IF scenario. Yuuzhan Vong vs Galactic Empire(Rebellion never happened)

[Lord Xizer]

Interesting analysis.

The war would have been a blood bath for both sides truly.

I think you're right, the Vong would not have reached the core.

I don't know if there would have been any Mon Calamari left(The Death Star II was scheduled to destroy Mon Cal after Endor had the Imps won.) The Corellians would have backed the Empire yes, don't know if the Bothans would have been used though.

I agree that the anti alien policies of the Empire would have greatly hindered it. Thrawn's EotH might have helped counter this a bit.

Leniency was not in the Emperor's vocabulary I think...

Viruses like Krytos and Alpha Red might have been deployed if the Superweapons didn't do the trick. I KNOW the Emperor would not have hesitated to create Galaxy killing weapons and viruses if he thought he was going to lose he'd find a way to take the Vong with him.

[Newrepublic-woodie]

Interesting analysis.

The war would have been a blood bath for both sides truly.

I think you're right, the Vong would not have reached the core.

I don't know if there would have been any Mon Calamari left(The Death Star II was scheduled to destroy Mon Cal after Endor had the Imps won.) The Corellians would have backed the Empire yes, don't know if the Bothans would have been used though.

I agree that the anti alien policies of the Empire would have greatly hindered it. Thrawn's EotH might have helped counter this a bit.

Leniency was not in the Emperor's vocabulary I think...

Viruses like Krytos and Alpha Red might have been deployed if the Superweapons didn't do the trick. I KNOW the Emperor would not have hesitated to create Galaxy killing weapons and viruses if he thought he was going to lose he'd find a way to take the Vong with him.

aye. In a way... I think the rebellion idea, was better. Rather than have just a giant war, have a series of battles and then war.... then a surprise invasion by a massive war force (the Vong).

[Lord Xizer]

Entirely possible, and like the Vong to induce chaos before beginning.

[MMM2409]

the empire woud have had lots of big weapons against the Vong, the Death Star, the Galaxy Gun, Centerpoint, dozens of SSD, and they woudnt have hesitated to use them

[Lord Xizer]

the empire woud have had lots of big weapons against the Vong, the Death Star, the Galaxy Gun, Centerpoint, dozens of SSD, and they woudnt have hesitated to use them

Well said indeed.

[MMM2409]

i just realized that i forget to mention the sun crusher, and against the empire the vong couldnt have used the vonyx (or how ever they are spelled) with such effect

[Lord Xizer]

Well the Empire DID have a Legion of Dark Jedi so they could have been targets but each tended to be well protected.

[MMM2409]

but these were probably less importantz for the empire than the jedi for the new republic

[Lord Xizer]

True, they were not as crucial.

[Kozer]

Yes a good point. Palpatine's greatest weakness was his belief in alien inferiority. I think that what Wedge said when asked how he thought Thrawn would do against the Vong, " If he had some Vong artwork he would have pasted them."

He did. The whole reason Thrawn attacked the Rebels was to unite the galaxy for the Vong fight. When Paelleon went into his room one time there was a statue? In there that was hard for him to look at. Thrawn told him it was the one time a species artwork didn't help him to defeat them.

[Slornie]

He did. The whole reason Thrawn attacked the Rebels was to unite the galaxy for the Vong fight. When Paelleon went into his room one time there was a statue? In there that was hard for him to look at. Thrawn told him it was the one time a species artwork didn't help him to defeat them.

Not quite. Thrawn said it was the only time a species' artwork hadn't given him enough insight to defeat an enemy without totally annihilating them.

[mynameisyou]

the empire because palpatine prepared them.

[Lord Xizer]

Well said fellow Loyal Son of the Empire

[Revanchist]

While I also believe the Empire would have won, I do not believe that it would have under Palpatine or anyone who followed his doctrine, which was: everything is expendable but me. I think that Nom Anor would have relayed back the Empire's liberal use of planet destroying superweapons. The Vong could have countered this by launching massive surprise attacks against key Imperial planets, such as Kuat. Once they took the planet, they would simply wait for the Empire to come and destroy it with a superweapon. After a time, all the Empire's key planets (Kuat, Carida, Fondor, etc) would have been destroyed, thus cutting off the Empire from being able to build any reinforcements, and cut off from key supplies. Then, the Vong would merely have had to wait for the Empire to collapse from within, and then mop up any resistance left.

[Kozer]

Not quite. Thrawn said it was the only time a species' artwork hadn't given him enough insight to defeat an enemy without totally annihilating them.

Well this is what he said.

    Thrawn: "It was my one failure, out on the Fringes. The one time when understanding a race's art gave me no insight at all into its psyche. At least not at the time. Now, I believe I'm finally beginning to understand them."
    Pellaeon: "I'm sure that will prove useful in the future."
    Thrawn: "I doubt it. I wound up destroying their world."

[Lord Xizer]

While I also believe the Empire would have won, I do not believe that it would have under Palpatine or anyone who followed his doctrine, which was: everything is expendable but me. I think that Nom Anor would have relayed back the Empire's liberal use of planet destroying superweapons. The Vong could have countered this by launching massive surprise attacks against key Imperial planets, such as Kuat. Once they took the planet, they would simply wait for the Empire to come and destroy it with a superweapon. After a time, all the Empire's key planets (Kuat, Carida, Fondor, etc) would have been destroyed, thus cutting off the Empire from being able to build any reinforcements, and cut off from key supplies. Then, the Vong would merely have had to wait for the Empire to collapse from within, and then mop up any resistance left.

The Vong would first have to get to those key planets. The Empire also had alternatives to Superweapons too. Remember while they are most remembered FOR their Superweapons and the damage they did they also had the Imperial Starfleet of 25,000 ISDs and millions of support ships along with about 21 Executor class SSDs(this by the Battle of Endor which was 24 yrs since the Empire was founded, so imagine another 21 years of buildup they could well have DOUBLED that strength)

[mynameisyou]

never said palps was a good leader he sucked but he did see it coming had plans upon plans upon plans the imp navy was designed for full scale war and he only lost agenst the rebel scum because he was overconfident. 

[Lord Xizer]

and because Wedge Antilles was flying that day at Endor...

[mynameisyou]

Yeah Wedge  is awesome way better than luke and his infinite whining anyway back on topic Wedge and the Lusankya were half the reason the rebals did not die the the jedi are the other but they are cheap and the empire had 21 ssd.

[Lord Xizer]

Yeah Wedge  is awesome way better than luke and his infinite whining anyway back on topic Wedge and the Lusankya were half the reason the rebal did not die the the jedi are the other but they are cheap and the empire had 21.

yep, Wedge, the Wraiths, Rogues and Borleias were the reason Vong children cry when they hear of that world's name.