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What do you think will be the cause of America's demise?

We are too awesome to die and shall continue to surrvive until we create the FIRST GALACTIC EMPIRE!
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Nuclear terrorism opens an opportunity for an invasion
1 (14.3%)
Economic collapse
4 (57.1%)
Our ever increasing consumption of fast food makes everyone fat and we sink the North American continent
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The Canadians unleash an army of caribou and take us over dooming us all to a life of creating maple syrup
2 (28.6%)
3-way war fought between China, Russia, and America leads to the loss of our holdings and relegates us to 2nd tier status
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Voting closed: January 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM

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January 13, 2014, 09:27:48 AMReply #20

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Re: Most likely cause of America's demise
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2014, 09:27:48 AM »
Crisiss I figured the 3 way war was unlikely but put it for two reasons.  1).  It is all but assured that we would win the War but even victories can wind up being too costly.  Take Britain in World War 2 for example.  To win they had to purchase ships and supplies from America but had to give up pretty much all of their Naval Bases, including Iceland, allowed them to rule the oceans and the world for so long.  Also they wound up being hugely in debt and not able to sustain their Empire in Asia and Africa leading to the loss of that. Something like this could happen to America fighting 1 billion Chinese and a crap load of Rusky tanks.  We would be tied up in Europe trying to save our allies there and need an Ally in the Pacific so get India to help out.  To get them to join us we allow them to take Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Indonesia, and the Philipines(?) giving them an Empire to build upon.  After the war we are exhausted finically and wind up giving up our military bases in foreign countries and gradually turning into a second tier power.  2). I could not figure out how to get rid of options so I put random ones in.
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January 13, 2014, 03:14:46 PMReply #21

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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2014, 03:14:46 PM »
Crisiss I figured the 3 way war was unlikely but put it for two reasons.  1).  It is all but assured that we would win the War but even victories can wind up being too costly.  Take Britain in World War 2 for example.  To win they had to purchase ships and supplies from America but had to give up pretty much all of their Naval Bases, including Iceland, allowed them to rule the oceans and the world for so long.  Also they wound up being hugely in debt and not able to sustain their Empire in Asia and Africa leading to the loss of that. Something like this could happen to America fighting 1 billion Chinese and a crap load of Rusky tanks.  We would be tied up in Europe trying to save our allies there and need an Ally in the Pacific so get India to help out.  To get them to join us we allow them to take Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Indonesia, and the Philipines(?) giving them an Empire to build upon.  After the war we are exhausted finically and wind up giving up our military bases in foreign countries and gradually turning into a second tier power.  2). I could not figure out how to get rid of options so I put random ones in.

You said this was a 3 way war though. Russia vs China vs America. None of Europe other than western Russia. And no, we would really only have to pay operating costs for our navy and aircraft to keep them at bay. So unless they plan on swimming across the Pacific or the Bering Strait (or going over the North Pole for whatever reason) we would be well prepared. But if we did launch a land offensive, we would get screwed financially. I don't think Europe would want to join anyways as nobody wants to piss off Russia. We all know what happens when you piss off Russia. China would have a hard time supplying and moving 1 billion troops and billions of tons of equipment across the Himalayas and Middle East, not including food, fuel, and ammunition. In a sense, nobody would win because of the economics. America has the standard victory by destroying the opposition down though.
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January 19, 2014, 03:38:17 PMReply #22

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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2014, 03:38:17 PM »
Oops. You are right. I was thinking three alliances. My fault. Just America, Russia, and China your scenario makes the most sense.
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January 20, 2014, 08:59:35 AMReply #23

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2014, 08:59:35 AM »
Two words - Raptor Apocalypse  8=)


January 20, 2014, 04:35:10 PMReply #24

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2014, 04:35:10 PM »
Raptors? So what, we clone dinosaurs, they become the most popular pet, raptors kill everybody?
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January 20, 2014, 04:48:38 PMReply #25

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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2014, 04:48:38 PM »
Sounds good to me!!
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2014, 07:31:57 PM »
Raptors are the greatest! I want a pet raptor!!
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January 20, 2014, 10:50:53 PMReply #27

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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2014, 10:50:53 PM »
Raptors are the greatest! I want a pet raptor!!

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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2014, 10:54:41 PM »
Well, they certainly couldn't identify the bodies through fingerprints with pet raptors...DNA might be more difficult, but you'd probably need several raptors in order to eat everything to not leave any DNA evidence...

hmmm...do raptors eat hair?
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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2014, 10:48:45 AM »
Raptors would be pretty messy though, so it would become clear that they were the culprit...unless we engineered a violence gene that could be turned on/off, that way by the time to police arrive the raptor is back to its docile state and is never suspected.
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2014, 12:19:40 PM »
This topic got weirder than I remember hahaha by the way, never liked raptors, there was an old game wich you had to hunt dinosaurs and the raptors always killed me, they were too fast
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2014, 08:05:50 PM »
This topic got weirder than I remember hahaha by the way, never liked raptors, there was an old game wich you had to hunt dinosaurs and the raptors always killed me, they were too fast

You mean Carnivores 1 and 2 or the Dino Crisis series?
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