So by you logic that a force user requires training to do the things they do, then Luke should not have been able to blow up the death star. Yes it is different then a lightsaber duel, but that means its a lot harder than that. Its easiler to kill another in a lightsbaer duel then it is to blow up a fucking superweapon.
With the simple difference:
Luke already knew how to fly, Luke already shot targets as big as the Ventilation Vent
he did get a minimal amount of Training on the Milenium Falcon and if you combine all those facts the difference is huge.
How is the fight between Rey and Kylo any different? Kylo was overcome with rage and fought out of control like Anakin while Rey fought with disapline. Also Kylo had been shot by a fucking explosive crossbow, stab by Finn duuring their quick Lightsaber duel, and was using the force in order to keep himself from passing out. He was weak plain and simple. Tell me, would it be realistc for Kylo Ren after being fucking shot with a explosive weapon that could have killed him, stab in his shoulder, and literally bleeding beat a woman who knows a thing or two about fighting with Mele weapons?
Rey just stabbed
she litteraly just used once move, over and over and over again
against the best pupil of Luke Skywalker....
Rey never handled a Lightsaber before, Rey never heard of the Force before but suddenly can force grab the Lightsaber
For which Luke needed the time Between IV and V to learn and only then with A LOT of concentration
And your Argument "fighting" with Meele Weapons? yeah
i refer to the one-move-she-had: Stabbing
And we saw her use that staff of her once? A staff is not a Light-Saber
If you touch a body part of yourself with a staff maybe it hurts, maybe your bone breaks if you are doing something stupid.
With a Lightsaber: You do one wrong move you can kill yourself.
The only valid point might be that Kylo got shot.
Also:
The other major difference between the fight Anakin - Obi-Wan/ Rey - Kylo is: Obi-Wan was a trained and combat experienced Jedi-MASTER, who knew Anakins Fighting Style!
Yeah because Luke was barely trained. But you are assuming that Kylo and Vader are equal in power which is not true.
Kylo was Lukes best Pupil
even if they are not equal, We saw Kylo stop a frigging Laser-Blast in Mid air!
For a rather long time!
Rey was trained in using her staff
By whom and when?
This is the first i heard of it
Pre-Vizla fought Maul pretty well and held his own.
Pre Viszla? The Head of Death Watch, a Mandalorian, who i believe i have read are stronger than the average human.
A Warrior through and through who trained for quit a while and must have been very skilled to become Leader of Death Watch.
He held his own against Maul.
Yes very good comparison to Rey, who is no trained Warrior, who is not a Mandalorian, who did not grow up i a Warrior Culture...
The new movies are just badly writen, if they had attempted to try and explain
WHY she can use Jedi-Mind-Trick beside never ever heard of it
WHY she can use the force on the same level as Luke after about 3 years of self-training
HOW she suddenly know how to fix the Millenium Falcon she never set a foot in
HOW she can hold her own against Kylo Ren in Episode VIII where he is NOT! wounded
WHY she suddenly has such huge Force Powers and it was never shown before
HOW she could understand BB-8 without a translator and never really interacting with droids
Nothing of this was ever explained or mentioned
Anakin, Luke and basically every other Character had some sort of explanation to why and how
this makes Rey a Mary Sue.
You had enough Opportunity to spend time with the Character, develop her, and explain her abilities:
- Show her repairing a droid or something and then sell it for a good price - some explanation why she can the Falcon
instead of: She can because she can repair it.
- show her fighting someone else or better a few guys with a stick to show that she can actually use it as a Weapon!
Both movies are badly written!
Those Flaws aren't just limited to Rey but go on to ALL other Characters in Force Awakens and Last Jedi.
With Rey we just feel it the most.
@kucsidave
Amen Brother!
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