Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => Star Wars Discussion => Topic started by: aNaRcHiSt44 on March 13, 2008, 10:55:01 PM
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Well, I thought I might see who the overall favourite Sith character of the community is, and so I put that idea into motion with this poll. Only vote in the Other section if it concerns a character that actually fell to the Dark Side. I vote for Darth Nihilius, because he gives the appearance of the Grim Reaper with the mask, and he is just so powerful.
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revan hands down was way more powerful than nihilus. nihilus was taught by revan. he just became an uncontrollable force. revan was way better.
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I know Revan taught Nhilius, but still, I think Nihilius is so cool. If I didnt vote for Nihilius, I would have voted for Revan, because he is cool, and then again all the KotOR Sith are much better than their modern counterparts.
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revan wins hands down. if the exile could beat nihilus and revan could have pwned the exil, than revan wins.
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I know! Stop repeating yourself! I agree, ok! Lol sorry for that. ;D
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calm down. this one got me excited.
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Lol. I know-it's not everyday you get a poll on Sith.
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I say Darth Vader. He is the best.
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Yeah, I think he is preety cool as well, and the voice just freaks me out. And he kills people for the sake of killing people-cant get much more evil than that.
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by the way, it is marka ragnos. not darth ragnos. the darth title was first used by either revan or andeddu. probably revan, as it is of rakata descent, the word.
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I know it's suppossed to be Marka Ragnos, but I still used a Darth because i wasnt paying much attention. I only just stopped short of naming Desann 'Darth Desann" and Tavion 'Darth Tavion'. ;)
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Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku ;)
Although, im wondering why Darth Caedus and Darth Krayt arent on there..
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Yeah, I think he is preety cool as well, and the voice just freaks me out. And he kills people for the sake of killing people-cant get much more evil than that.
name 1 sith who didn't...
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Revan, which is why he is awesome. He's a Sith that lives by the ideals of the Sith.
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I am sorry I forgot to put Krayt and Caeus on there, but I forgot their names, which is why I put the 'Other' selection, because I knew people would go for them.
Am I the only one that thinks Nihilius is cool?
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He was hunger without control. That just means he needs to go on a diet.
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I know he had an insatiale hunger, but still, how could you not like a figure that has the appearance of the Grim Reaper (the mask and the black robe and black hood) and kills millions out of hunger?
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nihilus was pretty much a problem more than a cool thing. life was at risk with him alive.
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I like many of those but you can only choose one. And there is nobody better that Vader. He's cool.
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Nihilius had to be stopped if the galaxy, nay, the universe were to survive, which is why I think he fits the role of the embodiment of death perfectly.
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You see the reason Vader is the best is because he was the only Sith that actually overcame the Darkside and was redeemed. And he did fulfill the prophecy by killing Palpatine.
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You see the reason Vader is the best is because he was the only Sith that actually overcame the Darkside and was redeemed. And he did fulfill the prophecy by killing Palpatine.
lots of sith overcame the dark side. ulic qel-droma, revan, and to a certain extent, sion.
although of these, only one can be said to have intentionally overcome the dark side (sion, and nothing says he embraced the ligt side in his last moments)
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very true indeed.
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He was the Lord of Pain, but he was the first and only to be truly redeemed.
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not counting ulic qel droma, darth vader, and revan, then?
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yea anarchist nihilus was really not a major sith. he was just a hole in the force where all life was just snuffed out.
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He was the Lord of Pain, but he was the first and only to be truly redeemed.
Cuase Vader was still dark when he chucked Palpatine down a shaft?
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no, he was redeemed while watching luke get fried.
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I know, sarcasm was being used in response to anarchist's quoted statement
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isamu, can you please stop being annoyingly blunt and making overly obvious statements and using bullshit statistics? it's getting on my nerves with all your poor-quality comebacks in debates.
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Facts, not statistics, they require numbers.
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it can also be hard to find sarcasm in text.
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Revan was never really redeemed. It had nothing to do with him willingly dropping the whole Sith act, it was mainly a turbolaser and some mind wiping by a few jedi.
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YOU FOOL!
You did not put Darth Bane on the list! (and that's who I vote for if you couldn't tell)
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and revan being redeemed sorta depends on how you play through the game... you can make yourself dark again.
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But there is a canon plot for that game. I don't play it so I dont know it.
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the canon is he finds out who he really is after the mind wipe. then he decides to stay light.
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hmmm its tough, it's hard to compare sidious to revan. We know the extend of sidious's power, but not really revans, thats why i have to say revan.
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revan's power is known
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If his power is unknown then you have to go with what you do know.
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revan- betrayed by malak. nearly killed. all-round to strong in all force areas.
sidious- brought the sith back in control after 25,000 years. master of all saber forms, used force storms (the more dangerous type) in space, nearly destroying the NR fleet, and taking down 4 jedi MASTERS in ROTS.
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no revan brought the sith back in controll after 25000 years sideous after like 1000.
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No, Sidious did, Revan still had a whole bunch of sith hooligans running around
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Revan became just few decades after Exar run. there was not even a century, let alone 25.000 years.
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Lol I guess I forgot to include Darth Vader in the redemption thing...but Sion was still the first and he was the 'most' redeemed of the lot in my opinion. But meh, I dont really care. This poll has gotten some good results anyways. And Isamu you may say that Nihilius wasnt a major Sith but he was if he was part of the Triumvirate of Sith Lords. And you openly, and technically, contradict yourself by saying he is not major then saying he was a hole in the force that ahd to be stopped. Unless you dont mean he was evil and emant something else, you really did contradict yourself on that score. Sith are defined by power, and Nihilius killed way more people than anyone else, which is a measure of his power, and they can also be, to a lesser extent, defined by how evil they are, and killing millions, even if it's necessary, is still really evil.
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no. ulic qel-droma was REDEEMED. there is no evidence of sion returning to the light side. he could of just turned neutral. droma trained nomi sunrider. and he was redeemed, although cut from the force.
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Revan became just few decades after Exar run. there was not even a century, let alone 25.000 years.
dammit i forgot about exar kun
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but it doesnt matter, the KOTOR era was 4000 years before sideous not 25000 years, being a dark jedi doesn't neccesarily make you sith...
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it doesn't make you a sith they are two different things.
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Well I dont know who Ulic Qel-Droma is, so I dont care. And Sion would have been redeemed because he fell in love and allowed himself to be destroyed by the one he loved. Sith possess lust generally, not love; the exception being Anakin, but then again, he tried to kill the one he loved. Sion didnt. Sorry vadereclipse, but your bluntness rubs off on people. :)
Being a Dark Jedi doesnt necessarily mean you are a Sith; dark Jedi are corrupted and can use the force. Sith are the epitome's of evil and hatred that the pussy Dark Jedi try to strive to become.
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Well I dont know who Ulic Qel-Droma is, so I dont care. And Sion would have been redeemed because he fell in love and allowed himself to be destroyed by the one he loved. Sith possess lust generally, not love; the exception being Anakin, but then again, he tried to kill the one he loved. Sion didnt. Sorry vadereclipse, but your bluntness rubs off on people. :)
Being a Dark Jedi doesnt necessarily mean you are a Sith; dark Jedi are corrupted and can use the force. Sith are the epitome's of evil and hatred that the pussy Dark Jedi try to strive to become.
he fell in love, what? no, the exile eroded his will, and he surrendered. nothing is said about love. nor is anything said about lust as opposed to love.
ulic qel-droma was a DARK LORD OF THE SITH. he was an apprentice to marka ragnos. why are you so objectionate? is it because that way, you can make more posts? just shut up. it is a fact. anyone on this forum with a brain will confirm it.
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Ulic wasn't an apprentice of Ragnos. Ragnos had died 1000 years before Ulic became a sith.
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i meant exar kun.
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neither was Exar Kun.
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who was then?
well, marka regnos's spirit declared him and exar kun sith lords.
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that comment with nomi sunrider made me realize we need to have a favortite jedi discussion, huh?
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who was then?
well, marka regnos's spirit declared him and exar kun sith lords.
No they both had already declared themselves as sith lords. Ragnos just ordered them to unite instead of killing each other.
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Uh it says on Wookiepedia on Sion's bio that he said he loved the Jedi Exile. :-\
Im not really being objectionate; Im just saying that Sion fell in love, and Wookiepedia says he did.
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Wookiepedia can be edited by anyone. Don't trust everything you read in it.
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So I shouldnt trust it when it says that the Executor Class Star Dreadnought under Admiral Ozzel's command (Darth Vader's flagshig) was named the Executor? And I shouldnt trust it when it says Emperor Palpatine was a Sith?
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but those are obvious things known to be true from the movies. pick some other examples.
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I know; I was trying to be funny.
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no you should check for sites where the information came from (usually posted on page) if there is no site, google it. if you find nothing, i is probably false.
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play kotor 2. there's your proof. he did not. his willl was eroded.
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yes but thats not the point
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Then what is the point? This tangent was shortly about wether you can trust wookiepedia. By going to the direct source, you get the correct info.
Back at the ranch: I personally like Revan, not because he was the best Sith Lord, but because I felt he over came the many flaws most sith lords had. For instance, he tried to preserve resources to use later; foresight. But, as a villan, Vader beats him. He is one of the best villans of all time.
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Darth Vader is renowned as the biggest movie villain ever, whilst Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7 is the biggest game villain. Trust me; look at the games concerning FF7, at all the gaming websites, etc. He is the most major bad-ass ever on games, but I think Vader is worse.
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Darth Revan all the way.
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excellent choice vandar
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Have the moderators picked their favorites yet? I wanna see what everyone likes.....
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Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku ;)
You see the reason Vader is the best is because he was the only Sith that actually overcame the Darkside and was redeemed. And he did fulfill the prophecy by killing Palpatine.
YOU FOOL!
You did not put Darth Bane on the list! (and that's who I vote for if you couldn't tell)
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Thanks Slornie. I am rejuvinated by that information.
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lol start paying attention anarchist
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I voted Reven ;D
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Plagueis, with Nihilus in second.
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i'll admit, plageius, is cool, with the whole eternal life thing. but i just dont know enough about him.
and Nihilus is one of my favorites indeed. it was tragic in kotor 2 how they made him sound sooo powerful but then made him a incredbily easy boss : (
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isnt a book based on plagueuis planned?
but possibly scrapped?
all i know about him is he's a muun, he trained palpatimne, and had the power of midichlorian manipulation.
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yea, thats pretty much all there is to know as well. it would be cool if they wrote a book about him. he seems like the empitamy of sith
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i think plageous was the last of the really smart sith that actually knew what they were effecting.
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i think plageous was the last of the really smart sith that actually knew what they were effecting.
what do you mean? no information has been released on him other than he's a muun, he trained palpatine and had awesome force powers. for all we know, he was as out of touch as any.
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i also have to say marka ragnos, as he basically started the whole dark lord of the sith thing. and he influenced people 1000's of years later. not to mention he was able to be redeemed which takes so much more strength then to fall.
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where is it mentioned that Marka Ragnos was redeemed?
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revan redeemed ragnos and allowed him to sleep, or am i thinking of someone else
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Ragnos wasn't even "wake" when Revan was loose.
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Ragnos wasn't settled till about 9ABY. at which time, he possessed Tavion Axmis. Jaden Korr (am i right?) killeed her, settling his spirit. nowehere is it mentioned that he became light.
you are thinking of Ajunta Pall. he was redeemed.
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that was hard to do
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Ah. It seems this forum is still going. Good work everyone.
ROFL! I am the only one who voted for Nihilius......
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for good reason, he may have looked cool. but he was the most dispointing boss ever, and as kotor 2 is the only thing that talks about him, thats the only thing we can off of.
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that was hard to do
did it first time lol. now the second time... he attacked me and owned me.
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yea if he attacks you your pretty much boned.
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yea if he attacks you your pretty much boned.
his sword was powerful.
still, didn't use it when i got it. i was a saber user.
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Ragnos wasn't settled till about 9ABY. at which time, he possessed Tavion Axmis. Jaden Korr (am i right?) killeed her, settling his spirit. nowehere is it mentioned that he became light.
you are thinking of Ajunta Pall. he was redeemed.
ah yes i am sorry, i was very much confused with ajunta pall, my mistake. "how embarrasing, howww embarassing" *yoda voice*
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why is andeddu on here? the only reference to him is a holocron and how he kept alive after death.
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Hey! Someone edited the choices on the poll! Now there are tons of them! vadereclipse; trust me, I have no idea who most of the new ones are, so an admin has done this. Anyways, to the admin; THANKS!
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Ok for those of you who don't know a lot of these guys...just check out Wookiepedia, they are all on there.
I kind of feel like a geek for knowing all of them. :-[
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we are all geeks for being members of a star wars forum. do not worry you are amoung peers
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I do agree. A geek can't call a geek a geek, unless he is merely stating the facts, not demeaning him
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Heh now i dissed anakin on the fav jedi thread cuz i thought he was evil but i'm still voting for vader. he may make a terrible jedi but he makes a really good villain.
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yea he was quite smart wasnt he
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I am proud of all the discussion that ensued.
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I vote for darth nihilus as he was the coolest looking and sounding sith, wish if you took his mask in the game you could wear it
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there's something i like about sion. although not the most force-powerful sith, he was powerful. would require a powerful charismatic jedi to kill him. he's a sith marauder in character, although evidently very powerful. also, he looks awesome.
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Nihilus because he could devastate whole planets. Plus he had a cool mask
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Sidious.
Cuz he wiped out the Jedi (well, most of them), caused the death of millions if not billions of people across the galaxy( Clone Wars) and his evil laugh is so damn cool!
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My favorite Sith is Darth Malak he was able to crush the Republic and Jedis and have them be in fear by haveing thousands of worlds bombed by the Sith fleet and he was also very skilled in both the ways of the force and lightsaber his only downfall i would say would be he thought he was the most powerful person in the galaxy so he was over confident.
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he was over confident.
All Sith are like that. Imagine a humble Sith! :crrry:
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I vote for Darth vader is very powerfull sith
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Darth Vader in total and maybe Revan at his evil days :)
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Wow, I was the first to pick Exar Kun. Strange, considering he's one of the most famous Sith, or at least one of the most prominent in my mind.
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i picked darth bane. just because i liked the books
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Darth Nihilus,
He was my favorite villan in kotor II. And he looked awesome^^
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Darth Revan. He controlled the Dark Side, it didn't control him. Can't say the same for most of them..
And KOTOR was just an awesome game.
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Vader or raven no idea who. But i mostly side with Raven cuz HE was THE man.
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I would have voted for Kyle Katarn, but him falling to the dark side was an alternate ending to Jedi Knight...So I voted for Revan. The original KOTOR was awesome, but I was disappointed by the second.
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Vader he was ment to eventually crush Sidious (aka known as the strongest sith lord ever) if he had beat Obi Wan or somehow not been burned to a crisp he would have been able to kill Sidious by himself if he wanted.
Other than that I really like Star-Killer eventhough I am sure most if not all people just view him as a Dark Jedi.
Joe
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Revan and Vader are my favorites, I chose vader though. why isn't Jaxus or whatever on that list, he was a sithlord right, idk I haven't read that series of books i've read the thrawn trilogy and duology along with outbound flight, and survivors quest, and i have just recently finished rogue squadron