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Title: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Augustus Lucius Flavius on September 03, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
Does anyone have information on what is going on in Syria? In America our news stations are useless going on and on about random crap when a war is getting ready to start. All we get to know is there are ships moving into the Gulf to get ready to fire tomahawks.  If you guys could comment with opinions or information thanks.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on September 03, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
Same stupid stuff that's been going on for the last 3,000 years. America just feels the need to meddle as usual, even though we financially can't afford to do crap.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Mat8876 on September 03, 2013, 05:54:38 PM
Syria is currently in a civil war.
Most of the population is retreating to the syrian borders to escape borders.

The reason the americans are in the gulf is because the syrian army was using chemical weapons, so the americans are preparing for war they not doing anything yet because the president is waiting something (I can't acually remember what it is.) but he can't do anything for about a week or two.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Mat8876 on September 03, 2013, 05:55:10 PM
Hopefully that helps you.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: tlmiller on September 03, 2013, 06:28:02 PM
He's awaiting approval from congress to authorize military action.  He is not supposed to authorize action without congressional approval.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Augustus Lucius Flavius on September 03, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on September 04, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
He's awaiting approval from congress to authorize military action.  He is not supposed to authorize action without congressional approval.

Technically he can for 60 days, but that's kind of only supposed to be used in Emergencies.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Revanchist on September 04, 2013, 09:47:07 AM
Hasn't pretty much every president since Truman gone over Congress' head when there was a crisis (from Korea to Iraq)?
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Augustus Lucius Flavius on September 04, 2013, 11:41:50 AM
As far as I am aware America has not officially declared war since WW2, we may have against Iraq but I know we blew stuff up before doing so.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Revanchist on September 04, 2013, 12:31:11 PM
Yes, there was the "police action" junk that has been used for Korea and Vietnam. I just heard that he can go over Congress's head if he feels the need, and that many other presidents have done so. This information could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on September 04, 2013, 03:58:46 PM
Yes, there was the "police action" junk that has been used for Korea and Vietnam. I just heard that he can go over Congress's head if he feels the need, and that many other presidents have done so. This information could be wrong though.

That is true.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: tlmiller on September 04, 2013, 04:21:19 PM
He can, although if Congress were to do their job, they would impeach him for doing so, as he is going against his constitutional powers in doing so.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Revanchist on September 04, 2013, 05:45:48 PM
Well, I just heard that the Senate Committee gave the president 90 days to freely lob missiles as long as US soldiers do not set foot in Syria.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on September 04, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
He can, although if Congress were to do their job, they would impeach him for doing so, as he is going against his constitutional powers in doing so.

Since when has Congress or the Senate done their jobs right? The Star Wars senate wasn't just inspired by the Roman one for it's ineptitude and corruption, it drew quite a few points from America's own.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: frogoverlord on September 05, 2013, 12:56:43 AM
I bet there will be a false flag in 11 Sept, then invasion of Syria by american forces, then all goes to hell
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on September 05, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
I bet there will be a false flag in 11 Sept, then invasion of Syria by american forces, then all goes to hell

Nah, too cliche
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Blackout on September 09, 2013, 08:01:19 PM
I just know someone is going to try to make the case to make a political discussion thread sometime soon ;).
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Revanchist on September 09, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
I hope not.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Corey on September 10, 2013, 01:33:28 AM
They used to be pretty common here, actually. This was back in 2007-2008 though, so I don't think more than one or two people would remember any of them (Meyer might). Ended with three people receiving one-week bans which makes up 75% of the total bans we've ever handed out that I can remember. It also resulted in me getting contacted by the parents of some forum members, which was extremely awkward.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Eclipse on September 10, 2013, 02:16:48 PM
They used to be pretty common here, actually. This was back in 2007-2008 though, so I don't think more than one or two people would remember any of them (Meyer might). Ended with three people receiving one-week bans which makes up 75% of the total bans we've ever handed out that I can remember. It also resulted in me getting contacted by the parents of some forum members, which was extremely awkward.
Ahahahah how is it that I missed that one, anyway in my opinion I don't see why everyone is so concerned about Syria I mean similar situation happened and not so long ago (Lybia for example) what I think will happen is that the US will interfere and "peace" will come
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Settra on September 10, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
They used to be pretty common here, actually. This was back in 2007-2008 though, so I don't think more than one or two people would remember any of them (Meyer might). Ended with three people receiving one-week bans which makes up 75% of the total bans we've ever handed out that I can remember. It also resulted in me getting contacted by the parents of some forum members, which was extremely awkward.

Guess it's fun remembering how young some of the people are here.

Ahahahah how is it that I missed that one, anyway in my opinion I don't see why everyone is so concerned about Syria I mean similar situation happened and not so long ago (Lybia for example) what I think will happen is that the US will interfere and "peace" will come

I would think people would be concerned (ignoring the amount of media being put towards it, which tends to help people pay attention every once and a while) either because the whole fiasco with chemical weapons or the fact that they don't like the part where the US interferes.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Slornie on September 10, 2013, 03:13:41 PM
I don't see why everyone is so concerned about Syria I mean similar situation happened and not so long ago (Lybia for example) what I think will happen is that the US will interfere and "peace" will come
One difference is that the Libya incursion and no-fly-zone was supported by a UN Resolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973) - something not forthcoming in the case of Syria.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Corey on September 10, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
Summary of my professor's/my own thoughts:

Obama backed himself into a corner by saying chemical weapons were the red line, probably thinking Assad wouldn't go that far and essentially giving both sides carte blanche to do whatever they wanted while still giving America time to formulate who it actually wanted to end up in charge/let them just stay out of it while still trying to put up a front. But then the chemical weapons were used, so now Obama's bluff's been called and the Russians are trying (currently only partially successfully) to give everyone a way out without anyone looking weak/having to invade anyone else.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: JC123 on September 10, 2013, 05:08:21 PM
And that's the story of how Russia saved a US president's political butt.  A rare event indeed.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on September 21, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
What a twist!
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: StarLordX on August 23, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
I was expecting Israel to intervene, given the usual clashes at the Golan Heights (which is currently under Israeli control). Israel always had a policy of launching counterstrikes on the enemy whenever their territory is threatened, as was the case in the Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Lord Xizer on November 25, 2014, 06:25:32 AM
The Middle East, the Tatooine of Earth
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: hoho96 on November 25, 2014, 07:16:06 AM
The Middle East, the Tatooine of Earth

What the hell Tatooine has in common with the M.E?!
It's more like a soup with tons of ingredients boiling in a closed pot on an endless fire.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Pali on November 25, 2014, 06:25:35 PM
The Middle East, the Tatooine of Earth

More Haruun Kal than Tatooine.

If you want a wretched hive of scum and villainy, there's always Washington D.C.
Title: Re: Crisis in Syria
Post by: Mat8876 on November 25, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
If you want a wretched hive of scum and villainy, there's always Washington D.C.
I don't even need to go that far, 4 miles away from where I live will do just as well or even go into town most of the places there are just plain awful.