Posted by: Revan
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:57:04 AM »Eeerr u mother fuck** there iz a lot of of of eerr "z" in thiz code !!!!
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: December 03, 2014, 07:44:58 AM »My keyboard iz all fuck up....
That''z why I don't zpeak a lot. Er write a lot.
Or are you really a Barabel in disguise? What's the code word!(Points Datapad like blaster and hits send button frantically)
Posted by: Revan
« on: December 02, 2014, 12:39:18 PM »My keyboard iz all fuck up....
That''z why I don't zpeak a lot. Er write a lot.
That''z why I don't zpeak a lot. Er write a lot.
Posted by: jordanthejq12
« on: December 02, 2014, 08:32:11 AM »Which means Disney would have to create something--gasp!--original for their new film. And the fans would love that.
Seriously, though, I know the crossguard design really got a few people. I've heard it described as the Rebels design philosophy leaking into the films, which may or may not be good. If they rely too much on gimmicks, it's going to turn people off, period.
Seriously, though, I know the crossguard design really got a few people. I've heard it described as the Rebels design philosophy leaking into the films, which may or may not be good. If they rely too much on gimmicks, it's going to turn people off, period.
Posted by: Pali
« on: December 01, 2014, 11:21:43 PM »If the lightsaber hilt were made of something that another lightsaber wouldn't instantly cut - beskar, perhaps - then the crossguard design makes some sense. It'd require a different fighting style, but there are plenty of those.
Posted by: Senza
« on: December 01, 2014, 09:33:11 PM »Yes, but a very slight modification would fix that. Also, you know those words are spelled with s, right?
Posted by: Revan
« on: December 01, 2014, 06:06:13 PM »Thiz iz chit !!!
Thiz crozzguard iz pointlezz !!! And I can explain it....
Thiz crozzguard iz pointlezz !!! And I can explain it....
Posted by: Pali
« on: December 01, 2014, 03:33:35 PM »I really wanted to chime in on the discussion here, but Pali just said everything I wanted to say and I couldn't agree more.
I've had some decent drunk posts lately... I barely remember writing that.
Posted by: Slornie
« on: December 01, 2014, 01:12:08 PM »Yeah. All of the prior-Expanded Universe canon has been rebranded as Legends, and is now separate from the new coordinated Canon (which includes all the movies, the Clone Wars and Rebels animated TV shows, and novels/games/comics being released from April 2014 onwards). That doesn't mean characters, locations, technologies or events from the EU can't or won't reappear in the new canon, just that they have to be explicitly brought in/referenced through the new media.
in terms of technological developments re: X-Wings and TIE Fighters in the new trailer, the SW galaxy really does seem to have reached a development peak. How long have lightsabers, hyperdrives, repulsorlift generators and turbolasers been around? 1,000 years, 10,000 years?
Just using a couple of examples from the Expanded Universe:
And just going from the movies themselves (all three trilogies), R2-D2 and C-3PO are both at least in their late 60's (32 years between TPM and ANH, four years between ANH and ROTJ, 30 years between ROTJ and TFA) - not bad for a couple of droids that have been at the centre of galactic affairs for three generations!
in terms of technological developments re: X-Wings and TIE Fighters in the new trailer, the SW galaxy really does seem to have reached a development peak. How long have lightsabers, hyperdrives, repulsorlift generators and turbolasers been around? 1,000 years, 10,000 years?
Just using a couple of examples from the Expanded Universe:
- the Dreadnaught Cruiser was designed at least 80 years prior to the Clone Wars and was still in demand in 10ABY (Katana fleet) - that's 115 years.
- the Millennium Falcon was built in 60BBY which makes it over 80 years old by the start of the Vong War.
And just going from the movies themselves (all three trilogies), R2-D2 and C-3PO are both at least in their late 60's (32 years between TPM and ANH, four years between ANH and ROTJ, 30 years between ROTJ and TFA) - not bad for a couple of droids that have been at the centre of galactic affairs for three generations!
Posted by: Vulcanus
« on: December 01, 2014, 09:21:22 AM »I really wanted to chime in on the discussion here, but Pali just said everything I wanted to say and I couldn't agree more .
.Posted by: Guderian
« on: December 01, 2014, 08:54:05 AM »A friend also told me that the entire EU was declared non-canon. Is that true?That is also what i have heard.
Abrams does sort of the exact same thing to Star Wars, what he did to Star Trek, only that he doesn't touch the canon of the old Films, and instead wrecks the EU after the Battle of Endor.
@Pali
yeah, you do have a point.
Posted by: Pali
« on: December 01, 2014, 05:13:16 AM »Considering that even in EU canon, X-Wing and TIE variants are still being used by 30 ABY, I can't really object to them - if the EU could find ways to justify it (variants of XJ-wings, TIE fighters and interceptors mentioned as used during Vong-war period and beyond), I'll grant Disney the benefit of the doubt on that until given reason not to.
It's strange to think about, but the general level of technology available in the Star Wars universe has remained fairly static for thousands of years - arms buildups tended to be reactive to other arms buildups compositionally, but not so much technologically. The X-Wing was designed in many ways as a response to the TIE fighter; it matched it in speed, nearly so in maneuverability, and had greater firepower, durability, and incomparably superior operational range. It was a perfect counter for a force to use that generally benefited from having better-trained/skilled pilots, though fewer, yet still with a decent amount of underground funding to supply them. The TIE Interceptor was designed in response to the X-Wing, though along the same design philosophies as the original TIE fighter - greater speed, maneuverability, and killpower, essentially serving just as the "better TIE fighter" variant. The A-Wing was designed to fill the Alliance's need for a hit-and-fade strike craft that could operate at long range on its own. The B-Wing was the Alliance's need for a long-range anti-capital strike craft, since it didn't have the capital ships to spare. Yet not a single one of these ships was really a leap forward in technology - not even the TIE Defender, which was pretty much designed to dominate all of the above. It was simply cramming more expensive, more complicated equipment into the fighter frames, maybe in new arrangements (like the B-Wing's gyroscopic uniqueness), but it was the same basic tech at work.
Edit: Hell, if anything, in the Star Wars universe a lot of technology has seemed to somewhat regress over the millennia - gravity well generators and cloaking devices in particular seem to pop in and out of general knowledge across the time periods.
It's strange to think about, but the general level of technology available in the Star Wars universe has remained fairly static for thousands of years - arms buildups tended to be reactive to other arms buildups compositionally, but not so much technologically. The X-Wing was designed in many ways as a response to the TIE fighter; it matched it in speed, nearly so in maneuverability, and had greater firepower, durability, and incomparably superior operational range. It was a perfect counter for a force to use that generally benefited from having better-trained/skilled pilots, though fewer, yet still with a decent amount of underground funding to supply them. The TIE Interceptor was designed in response to the X-Wing, though along the same design philosophies as the original TIE fighter - greater speed, maneuverability, and killpower, essentially serving just as the "better TIE fighter" variant. The A-Wing was designed to fill the Alliance's need for a hit-and-fade strike craft that could operate at long range on its own. The B-Wing was the Alliance's need for a long-range anti-capital strike craft, since it didn't have the capital ships to spare. Yet not a single one of these ships was really a leap forward in technology - not even the TIE Defender, which was pretty much designed to dominate all of the above. It was simply cramming more expensive, more complicated equipment into the fighter frames, maybe in new arrangements (like the B-Wing's gyroscopic uniqueness), but it was the same basic tech at work.
Edit: Hell, if anything, in the Star Wars universe a lot of technology has seemed to somewhat regress over the millennia - gravity well generators and cloaking devices in particular seem to pop in and out of general knowledge across the time periods.
Posted by: turtle225
« on: November 30, 2014, 11:44:06 PM »I have a big problem with X-Wings and Tie Fighters being shown. This is supposed to take place roughly 30 years ABY right?
A friend also told me that the entire EU was declared non-canon. Is that true?
A friend also told me that the entire EU was declared non-canon. Is that true?
Posted by: Singularity
« on: November 30, 2014, 05:23:13 PM »I'm really trying to care here guys...but I can't. I just can't. Any enthusiasm I had for the franchise went down the toilet with the Expanded Universe. Seeing all the hype and excitement for something that should mean a lot to me, but is just going to be completely alien no matter what, just makes me feel sad. 
Posted by: Mat8876
« on: November 30, 2014, 03:54:37 PM »What's with the Empire still using the same old, boring TIE fighters though??They probably put them in because that's what we think when we see star wars, TIE Fighters, X-wings and a scary helmet with a scary guy in it.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Emperor returned (hopefully a fifth time otherwise it ruins to much).