Author Topic: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik Debate (Read 28011 times)

aNaRcHiSt44 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 21, 2008, 12:40:46 AM »

My, my,this topic has really deteriorated.
The navy of the U.S.A is by far the most active and best in the world, and also the most advanced. I am not sure if either the U.S.S.R or the U.S.A had the first nuclear-missile-armed submarines, so I will leave such discussion up to you.

Meyer · « **Reply #41 on:** March 21, 2008, 04:01:39 AM »

Quote from: strike23 on March 20, 2008, 07:46:02 PM

the U.S. definatly has had the most advanced navy throughout the past half century or more. we were the first with Aircraft carriers, the first with nuclear powered subs, etc.

Actually the first real carrier was HMS Argus apparently. Part of the Royal Navy. And yes US navy is the most active as US puts their nose on everything, even on something they shouldn't. But most active doesn't mean the best. Actually my opinion of the US navy is fairly low because of one exercise. In that a SWEDISH submarine was able to sunk an american carrier and get away without being detected. So I think that says it all.

strike23 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 21, 2008, 02:26:58 PM »

we're getting off topic, but here is a comparison of navies around the world... notice that the U.S. comes out on top most of the time...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_has_the_worlds_most_powerful_navy

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #43 on:** March 21, 2008, 03:11:29 PM »

Quote from: Meyer on March 21, 2008, 04:01:39 AM

In that a SWEDISH submarine was able to sunk an american carrier and get away without being detected. So I think that says it all.

Hey, don't piss off the Swiss. YOU try invading a country where everyone has a gun and knows how to use it. Their arm is very well trained, so I expect their navy to be as well.

Isamu · « **Reply #44 on:** March 21, 2008, 06:43:16 PM »

same with israel but anyways, the soviet empire was very powerful

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 21, 2008, 08:31:17 PM »

Meyer, since you seem to have hidden from my question, i'll ask again.

What Navy is more advanced and powerful than the US navy? You say these things yet never give proof. So, lets see it.

Meyer · « **Reply #46 on:** March 22, 2008, 03:18:01 AM »

well if you can't find a Swedish sub with your "superior" technology I think that says it all. I thought you would realize that it was the proof. but once again you didn't.

And Dane Kiet nobody mentioned Swiss anywhere.

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #47 on:** March 22, 2008, 09:09:57 AM »

Sorry, brain slip

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Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 22, 2008, 01:45:01 PM »

Well, whats wrong with Swedidh Subs? They use a new propulsion technology no one else does. So you still give no proof as to what navy is better. The only "proof" you give is that a new sub sank a carrier in an exercise. Does that mean the Swedish navy is better than the US navy? No, it doesn't. Its like they scored a goal. And scoring one goal doesn't win this game.

Meyer · « **Reply #49 on:** March 22, 2008, 02:17:15 PM »

and right now you said they use technology no one else doesn't. as it seems to work well why doesn't anyone else use? And if that's my only proof, then what's your proof that us navy is the best? Is it that you're good at bombing civilians?

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 22, 2008, 03:33:17 PM »

US carriers and the aircraft used on them are the most advanced in the world. The Super Hornet was the best naval aircraft in use and will be replaced with the F-35, the most advanced naval aircraft now. The Aegis combat system is considered the best system of its type in the world.

Isamu · « **Reply #51 on:** March 23, 2008, 02:09:19 AM »

technology is only as good as its operators. back to topic, communism and the ussr...

Meyer · « **Reply #52 on:** March 23, 2008, 03:49:35 AM »

communism is a disease. thank god it has almost been destroyed. there are only few communist countries. and soon they will reject it also.

strike23 · « **Reply #53 on:** March 23, 2008, 09:28:20 AM »

socialism has a place in govt. not all of it but some. Communism took the idea too far and was usually run by corrupt people which sort of defeated the purpose...

Dane Kiet · « **Reply #54 on:** March 23, 2008, 09:41:25 AM »

Socialism is a great idea. I just don't think it will work because of human nature.

Isamu · « **Reply #55 on:** March 23, 2008, 12:41:50 PM »

if communism weren't run by corrupt people, it would have been the perfect society

strike23 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 23, 2008, 12:44:26 PM »

mayb, but it takes too many rights away from the people. the government needs to help people but not run their lives.

Meyer · « **Reply #57 on:** March 23, 2008, 12:48:59 PM »

actually real communism should give the power to the people.

Isamu · « **Reply #58 on:** March 23, 2008, 12:51:17 PM »

it was supposed to. communism as explained in the book of marx would give total power to the people of the state with the governing members organizing things such as costs for road work and military and other things that maintain a country. essentially they would be more accountants than anything.

Vandar T · « **Reply #59 on:** March 23, 2008, 05:12:45 PM »

Quote from: Isamu on March 23, 2008, 12:41:50 PM

if communism weren't run by corrupt people, it would have been the perfect society

True, but there is always a bad Communism leader, often taking advantage of the situation ( if bad ) and gets to the power.

Author Topic: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik Debate (Read 28011 times)

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