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June 01, 2017, 10:21:51 PMReply #20

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2017, 10:21:51 PM »
well... What movie?
Wonder Women? What kind?

Ask her friend what movies she prefers to get some insight. Dates are like battles, you need intelligence gathering first to make things smoother in the decisive moment.

However Wonder Woman might well be a great choice, empowerment aspect aside, it's so far been called a good popcorn flick and will give you two some talking points over the food.
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June 02, 2017, 08:14:17 AMReply #21

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2017, 08:14:17 AM »
Or, if you don't want to risk it that her friend tells her in advance, you can always offer her to chose a movie(don't give her all the work though, be there with her) and you can always get a good impression from her choice. if it is a typical friend movie, then you might have been friendzoned, but there is a way out though. If a romantic one then it is either a test if you sleep in it or not, or you're basically blatantly told that you're a winner.
oh, and an advice. If they say maybe later then it is basicly a no and in 90% of the time they just trying to stall until you give up. Give them some time before trying again, but try to prove her that you are good for her in the meantime. But if they say no then press on hard because they might just playing hard to get.
Also whatever happens, don't give up!
You have to show her that you are serious about this and not just playing around her.
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June 02, 2017, 07:26:31 PMReply #22

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2017, 07:26:31 PM »
If a girl says no in any context, then do NOT press harder - that is harassment, possibly stalking.  Respect the no and back off.

June 03, 2017, 01:15:06 PMReply #23

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2017, 01:15:06 PM »
If a girl says no in any context, then do NOT press harder - that is harassment, possibly stalking.  Respect the no and back off.

Jeez, what makes you think that he would have harassed her? He was just asking for advice. And I'm pretty sure he knows his boundaries himself as any reasonable person should.
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June 03, 2017, 05:10:08 PMReply #24

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2017, 05:10:08 PM »
Jeez, what makes you think that he would have harassed her? He was just asking for advice. And I'm pretty sure he knows his boundaries himself as any reasonable person should.

I was less speaking directly to AdmiralThrawn in that post, and more countering what kucsidave said in the post above mine:

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But if they say no then press on hard because they might just playing hard to get.

This is terrible advice that should not be followed.

June 03, 2017, 06:59:00 PMReply #25

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2017, 06:59:00 PM »
This is terrible advice that should not be followed.
Really Dave has always given great Advice
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June 03, 2017, 09:01:35 PMReply #26

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2017, 09:01:35 PM »
Seriously?  If a girl says no - if ANYONE says no regarding damn near anything - take them at their word and respect it.  If they're playing hard to get, you're passing up a chance to get with someone willing to play stupid games with you - is that the kind of partner you want?  If they're sincere, you're risking restraining orders or jail.  You really have no way to tell which, so err on the side of caution and take them at their word.

There's also the basic decency of respecting consent, which doesn't just apply to sex but also to general interactions.  Do you want someone hanging around after you've told them to leave you alone?  Why be the person doing that to someone else?  Don't force yourself on others, even in terms of just being around them.

June 03, 2017, 10:26:24 PMReply #27

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2017, 10:26:24 PM »
Edit: Turns out what I thought was correct, just some confusion in what was said.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 08:40:17 PM by Mr.Puerto »
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June 03, 2017, 11:46:56 PMReply #28

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2017, 11:46:56 PM »
Seriously?  If a girl says no - if ANYONE says no regarding damn near anything - take them at their word and respect it.  If they're playing hard to get, you're passing up a chance to get with someone willing to play stupid games with you - is that the kind of partner you want?  If they're sincere, you're risking restraining orders or jail.  You really have no way to tell which, so err on the side of caution and take them at their word.

There's also the basic decency of respecting consent, which doesn't just apply to sex but also to general interactions.  Do you want someone hanging around after you've told them to leave you alone?  Why be the person doing that to someone else?  Don't force yourself on others, even in terms of just being around them.
sorry man...
I did not mean to be a jerk
does Corey have any advice?
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 12:46:18 AM by AdmrialThrawn2 »
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June 04, 2017, 02:42:09 AMReply #29

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2017, 02:42:09 AM »
sorry man...
I did not mean to be a jerk
does Corey have any advice?

I didn't mean to make you feel like one - you weren't being one at all.

June 04, 2017, 06:28:03 PMReply #30

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2017, 06:28:03 PM »
duuuude! I didn't told him to go be a creep. I told him that he might need to up his game.
It might be just a Hungarian thing, but my best friend was rejected 3 times by a girl, but he didn't gave up on her and eventually the girl said yes and now they are married for 2 years.
DETERMINATION MAN!
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June 04, 2017, 07:30:01 PMReply #31

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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2017, 07:30:01 PM »
duuuude! I didn't told him to go be a creep. I told him that he might need to up his game.
It might be just a Hungarian thing, but my best friend was rejected 3 times by a girl, but he didn't gave up on her and eventually the girl said yes and now they are married for 2 years.
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Dave was not giving terrible Advice.
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June 04, 2017, 09:30:43 PMReply #32

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2017, 09:30:43 PM »
duuuude! I didn't told him to go be a creep. I told him that he might need to up his game.

Then you'll have to forgive my misunderstanding of your saying "If she says no then press on hard".  I hope you can see how that was open to misinterpretation.

June 05, 2017, 06:24:05 AMReply #33

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2017, 06:24:05 AM »
well, it's okay. I just never even imagined that anyone would come up with something like this.
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June 05, 2017, 05:03:18 PMReply #34

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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2017, 05:03:18 PM »
well, it's okay. I just never even imagined that anyone would come up with something like this.

The problem may well be that I've seen far too many bits of advice from "Pick-Up Artists" who would mean what you said exactly the way I took it: don't back off no matter what, when she says no she really means yes, etc.  And that is indeed truly terrible advice.  There is a safe level of showing persistent interest, and you have my apologies for not being charitable enough to assume that was what you were encouraging, but you can absolutely find guys who will teach other guys to disregard consent.

June 06, 2017, 10:40:35 PMReply #35

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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2017, 10:40:35 PM »
hahhahaa
she added me on snap chat.
her friends keep telling me she thinks I am a charming and great guy
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June 07, 2017, 01:12:29 PMReply #36

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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2017, 01:12:29 PM »
continue talking to her and try to stay relevant to her life, and things will go very smoothly.

June 07, 2017, 03:55:15 PMReply #37

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2017, 03:55:15 PM »
As the kids say these days "slide in those DMs."
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February 19, 2018, 04:51:12 PMReply #38

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2018, 04:51:12 PM »
As a man that made it out of the friend zone, just listening to their problems and offering solutions, even if it does not benefit you (like telling her to make it work with her current bf [if applicable], even if he is a douche). a neutral opinion and honest advice is a great foundation of a relationship. (or so my fiance behind me with a weapon tells me).

March 01, 2018, 11:29:15 AMReply #39

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Re: Ummm... I need Advice
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2018, 11:29:15 AM »
Obviously I'm a little late to the party on this one... But.. how'd it go?
OP ever post results? Lol
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