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July 08, 2014, 09:53:39 PMReply #20

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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2014, 09:53:39 PM »
Could we get ground buildable tie fighters as a fast air unit for the empire and the rebels could gain rahm kota and his miltia

July 08, 2014, 10:05:50 PMReply #21

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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2014, 10:05:50 PM »
Ah Kota! One of only three jedi i like and respect(obi wan and katarn being the other two)
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July 08, 2014, 10:29:46 PMReply #22

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2014, 10:29:46 PM »
Ah Kota! One of only three jedi i like and respect(obi wan and katarn being the other two)
Was there ever a established fate for Kota because presumably he must have died prior to Luke declaring himself Jedi otherwise i imagine the order would be millitant

July 08, 2014, 10:53:13 PMReply #23

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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2014, 10:53:13 PM »
Black Sun would be interesting but how would you go about it? Memories of the OP zann consortium are still unfortunately vivid to me.
Would even like to see Zaarin for the Imps. Maybe Batch with his TIE phantoms?

What resources did Xizor actually have?  I do feel like he ought to make an appearance, though, and not just because I like him and the Falleen.

July 09, 2014, 12:47:54 AMReply #24

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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2014, 12:47:54 AM »
What resources did Xizor actually have?  I do feel like he ought to make an appearance, though, and not just because I like him and the Falleen.

He did have his own private navy and paramilitary
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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2014, 12:06:54 AM »
empire- admiral needa , captain palleon, the emperor ,darth vader of course, veers , to many more to say really
rebellion -.....take your pick there is sooo many just so long as you either beef up the mc80 or get rid of it tell me one time you see that ship in 4 ,5 or 6 .... and anyway its a shitty ship 2 torbo lasers and 2 ion cannons against a star destroyer it sucks
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2014, 02:17:30 AM »
Needa was a captain
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July 10, 2014, 05:00:57 AMReply #27

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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2014, 05:00:57 AM »
EDIT:  If memory serves Just prior to the Battle of Endor wasn't the empire supposed to have around 25,000 Imperial II star destroyers?  Not sure I would call that super rare.

To my knowledge, that number comes from Zahn's Hand of Thrawn duology, and I don't recall Zahn ever distinguishing between ISDs and ISD2s.  The second book of the duology includes the Errant Venture, which was an ISD2, but despite re-reading Vision of the Future fairly recently I honestly can't recall Zahn actually calling it one, so I'd assume that he's combining ISD1s and 2s for the number (and checking my copy of Specter of the Past, which of course I had to go find so I could make sure I wasn't about to make an idiot of myself, no actual timepoint for the number is given: "Two hundred Star Destroyers remaining from a Fleet that had once included over twenty-five thousand of them." is the sentence, with no contextual time reference around it).  According to Wookiepedia, the ISD2s only started being introduced after the Battle of Yavin, so I'd assume that for the next few years at least they'd be relatively rare - though it does note that they were specifically used at Hoth and Endor, which would make sense as the Empire would likely want to use their best, newest ships where combat was most likely.

The ISD1, by comparison, was introduced near the end of the Clone Wars, and so had been in production for nearly two decades before Yavin.

Edit: As an additional datapoint, despite the Thrawn Trilogy, HoT duology, and Choices of One all giving it a prominent role, I can't recall Zahn ever calling the Chimaera an ISD2 either despite it generally being considered one (not going to go hunting, but I could swear I remember an NJO or Legacy book refers to it as one, and Wookiepedia certainly does).
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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2014, 10:02:40 AM »
Zahn i think has the isd mk I and II as imperial star destroyer since the mk II was first introduced as such in the x wing novels. They would also still technically be the same class of destroyer with the II just being an upgraded version
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July 11, 2014, 12:34:20 AMReply #29

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2014, 12:34:20 AM »
The argument could be made that Victory-, Tector-, and Venator-class ships should be counted under that number also, given that Zahn just says "Star Destroyers" and not "Imperial Star Destroyers".  I suspect, however, that it should really refer just to the Imp and Imp-2 - the latter's just an upgraded variant of the former, whereas Zahn distinguishes Imperials from Victories in the Thrawn trilogy and at the time of his writing neither Tectors nor Venators had been confirmed as existing ship designs.

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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2014, 01:56:40 AM »
Indeed
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July 11, 2014, 02:02:50 AMReply #31

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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2014, 02:02:50 AM »
Needa was a captain
hmm your right my mistake ...for the rebels try a liberator ship it was in rebellion game and around that era

July 11, 2014, 09:45:23 AMReply #32

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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2014, 09:45:23 AM »
hmm your right my mistake ...for the rebels try a liberator ship it was in rebellion game and around that era

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July 11, 2014, 12:45:04 PMReply #33

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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2014, 12:45:04 PM »
The argument could be made that Victory-, Tector-, and Venator-class ships should be counted under that number also, given that Zahn just says "Star Destroyers" and not "Imperial Star Destroyers".  I suspect, however, that it should really refer just to the Imp and Imp-2 - the latter's just an upgraded variant of the former, whereas Zahn distinguishes Imperials from Victories in the Thrawn trilogy and at the time of his writing neither Tectors nor Venators had been confirmed as existing ship designs.
If you're counting ISD and ISD-II together it would actually make sense to include the Tector as well since it was again based off the same hull.  Whereas the Victory and Venator classes are both far more distinct designs.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2014, 02:58:09 PM »
Again he could have just mrant all varieties of star destroyers
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July 19, 2014, 10:51:44 AMReply #35

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Praetor Class 1 as a Buildable Flaggship

July 21, 2014, 11:13:32 AMReply #36

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2014, 11:13:32 AM »
The Praetor-I has almost nothing known about it except for it being 4000 meters long and a strictly Republic ship, so there's no reason to include that over the Praetor-II which was specifically Imperial, if we were to include either (which I'm hesitant to do considering how outgunned the Rebels will already be)
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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2014, 08:20:49 PM »
Perhaps the Corporate Sector Alliance as an added playable or minor faction? Wouldn't be too hard to add, they used a lot of Imperial and Clone Wars-era Republic and CIS tech they'd bought off the Empire like Lucrehulk-class Battleships?
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2014, 01:22:37 AM »
Perhaps the Corporate Sector Alliance as an added playable or minor faction? Wouldn't be too hard to add, they used a lot of Imperial and Clone Wars-era Republic and CIS tech they'd bought off the Empire like Lucrehulk-class Battleships?

So basically a version of the PA
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July 22, 2014, 01:39:37 AMReply #39

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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2014, 01:39:37 AM »
So basically a version of the PA

That is basically what it would amount to...
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