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September 19, 2014, 01:08:54 PMReply #100

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #100 on: September 19, 2014, 01:08:54 PM »
Indeed, keeps one on their toes
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September 19, 2014, 04:17:04 PMReply #101

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« Reply #101 on: September 19, 2014, 04:17:04 PM »
And much more like the canon universe, where it seems like they decided to write every minor 2-bit Imperial splinter warlord somehow had their own Executor.
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September 19, 2014, 11:00:05 PMReply #102

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« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2014, 11:00:05 PM »
And how many of these were actually taken down in battle? (Other than the original Executor, of course.)
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September 23, 2014, 03:52:23 PMReply #103

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2014, 03:52:23 PM »
And how many of these were actually taken down in battle? (Other than the original Executor, of course.)

The Agressor was destroyed in combat with another warlord (Pitta).
Razors Kiss, after being sabotoged to be able to be captured by a NR fleet, was destroyed.
Lusankya was destroyed spearing a worldship, although it was long planned and almost all useful systems had been scavenged from the ship before using it as a huge battering ram.

While unknown if it was an Executor or another dreadnought, the Dominion was destroyed in battle with the Mandalorians.

Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head that were destroyed in some form of combat and not straight out sabatoge.
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September 23, 2014, 04:59:20 PMReply #104

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« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2014, 04:59:20 PM »
Whelm was lost in a duel with a Mandator III.

The Iron Fist got kissed by a Wookiee and then received some Hapan love.

Reaper was lost in the Battle of Celanon.

September 23, 2014, 05:06:18 PMReply #105

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #105 on: September 23, 2014, 05:06:18 PM »
Whelm was lost in a duel with a Mandator III.

The Iron Fist got kissed by a Wookiee and then received some Hapan love.

Reaper was lost in the Battle of Celanon.

Can't believe I forgot the Reaper and Iron Fist, yet remembered Zsinj's second dreadnought!!
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September 23, 2014, 05:14:55 PMReply #106

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #106 on: September 23, 2014, 05:14:55 PM »
And the Annihilator, destroyed by the Zann Consortium at Kuat. Unless you know the trick to get the superlaser working early, chances are that thing goes down by shooting it.

(Is it weird that I remember that ship, its name, and possibly its commander (Gaarn, I think)?)
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September 24, 2014, 12:53:37 PMReply #107

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #107 on: September 24, 2014, 12:53:37 PM »
Also Vengeance (the Executor-class, not Jerec's) fell victim to B-Wing bombardment and a corvette kamikaze run.

So in fact quite many SSDs were destroyed in combat.

September 24, 2014, 01:31:51 PMReply #108

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« Reply #108 on: September 24, 2014, 01:31:51 PM »
Glad to hear something of the Imperials' can die by something other than plot bunny.
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September 24, 2014, 05:59:47 PMReply #109

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2014, 05:59:47 PM »
And the Annihilator, destroyed by the Zann Consortium at Kuat. Unless you know the trick to get the superlaser working early, chances are that thing goes down by shooting it.

(Is it weird that I remember that ship, its name, and possibly its commander (Gaarn, I think)?)

It's not weird at all you remember its name, especially since it's the name of practically every non-hero SSD in ICW, since it's the first name alphabetically in the SSD's list of possible names :P.

On topic, I would definitely like to see the Munificent replaced by the Gladiator as others have suggested, I'm not exactly sure what its role would be though is the problem...

September 24, 2014, 06:22:05 PMReply #110

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #110 on: September 24, 2014, 06:22:05 PM »
It's not weird at all you remember its name, especially since it's the name of practically every non-hero SSD in ICW, since it's the first name alphabetically in the SSD's list of possible names :P.

On topic, I would definitely like to see the Munificent replaced by the Gladiator as others have suggested, I'm not exactly sure what its role would be though is the problem...

Isn't Gladiator like the little brother of Vic I? Very respectable number of conc missiles for such a small frigate, point-defense lasers, some turbolasers, a couple of fighter squadrons. Sounds like a high-end screening vessel to me.

September 24, 2014, 06:43:47 PMReply #111

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #111 on: September 24, 2014, 06:43:47 PM »
Isn't Gladiator like the little brother of Vic I? Very respectable number of conc missiles for such a small frigate, point-defense lasers, some turbolasers, a couple of fighter squadrons. Sounds like a high-end screening vessel to me.

Heck, it's the little brother of the Vindicator even...
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September 26, 2014, 01:17:05 PMReply #112

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #112 on: September 26, 2014, 01:17:05 PM »
I feel like its best role would be to be what the Sacheen would be if the Sacheen were actually good at all. Fairly small, fast, with low durability but a versatile armament that allows it to handle most small scale engagements, not enough firepower to threaten a large ship on its own unless it's already heavily damaged, but capable of overwhelming larger ships with sufficient numbers. Sort of like an assault frigate, I guess, except it sacrifices some of the durability for a fighter complement and a  good array of concussion missile launchers to allow it to screen fighters from larger vessels while still being able to offer meaningful support against large  ships.

September 26, 2014, 01:37:14 PMReply #113

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #113 on: September 26, 2014, 01:37:14 PM »
I feel like its best role would be to be what the Sacheen would be if the Sacheen were actually good at all. Fairly small, fast, with low durability but a versatile armament that allows it to handle most small scale engagements, not enough firepower to threaten a large ship on its own unless it's already heavily damaged, but capable of overwhelming larger ships with sufficient numbers. Sort of like an assault frigate, I guess, except it sacrifices some of the durability for a fighter complement and a  good array of concussion missile launchers to allow it to screen fighters from larger vessels while still being able to offer meaningful support against large  ships.

This is pretty much how I envisioned the Gladiator, just I would like it to be a bit slow for a light frigate. Considering that the Gladiator was designed to escort Vic Is, it didn't necessarily require that much speed, and since both Carracks and Strike Cruisers were seemingly favored over the Gladiator (at least during the Thrawn Campaign), you need to give it some weaknesses instead of just making it a more versatile (and thus better) Strike Cruiser/Vindicator.

September 26, 2014, 09:35:12 PMReply #114

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #114 on: September 26, 2014, 09:35:12 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking earlier that it would probably need to be slower than I described.

September 30, 2014, 07:01:01 AMReply #115

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #115 on: September 30, 2014, 07:01:01 AM »
I didn't checked the forums for quite some time, but I'm back!
For the subject:

In Ground:

What PA needs? PLEX TROOPERS! The tech tree shows the IR's Plex Troopers, but I can not build it in game...
What it definately do not need is the Pirate Skiff. I've got two reasons for that.
1, Why the hell would they have any? They are not pirates
2, Completely useless. Against troopers the Swamp Speeders are much more effective, and against vehicles... Well, anything else would be better...

In space:

-In space it is a well designed Fraction, It doesn't really need anything extra.
-What it definately do not need is the Munnificent. I always found it good looking ship, but it is useless, and personally I only bring it for the Skiprays. Maybe would be more usefull if you would give it the sensor ping ability, or some other GC bennifit. I mean it serves as mobile communications for the Banking clan. It should definately give some bonus because it's sole purpose...
And just a something I tould like to see, is the Lucrehulk to need at least a Heavy Frigate Shipyard. With the other light frigates it just doesn't makes sense.(I know it can only be brought in the corporate sector, but still...)
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September 30, 2014, 09:30:02 AMReply #116

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #116 on: September 30, 2014, 09:30:02 AM »
I didn't checked the forums for quite some time, but I'm back!
For the subject:

In Ground:

What PA needs? PLEX TROOPERS! The tech tree shows the IR's Plex Troopers, but I can not build it in game...
What it definately do not need is the Pirate Skiff. I've got two reasons for that.
1, Why the hell would they have any? They are not pirates
2, Completely useless. Against troopers the Swamp Speeders are much more effective, and against vehicles... Well, anything else would be better...

In space:

-In space it is a well designed Fraction, It doesn't really need anything extra.
-What it definately do not need is the Munnificent. I always found it good looking ship, but it is useless, and personally I only bring it for the Skiprays. Maybe would be more usefull if you would give it the sensor ping ability, or some other GC bennifit. I mean it serves as mobile communications for the Banking clan. It should definately give some bonus because it's sole purpose...
And just a something I tould like to see, is the Lucrehulk to need at least a Heavy Frigate Shipyard. With the other light frigates it just doesn't makes sense.(I know it can only be brought in the corporate sector, but still...)

1.  Plex troopers are fixed in 2.15
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October 01, 2014, 07:25:55 AMReply #117

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #117 on: October 01, 2014, 07:25:55 AM »
1.  Plex troopers are fixed in 2.15
Well, i quite missed it, as i couldn't play for almost half a year, as my new video card didn't wanted to be compatible...(i call it the magic card, as it have issues with 1024x768, but runs perfectly with 1600x1200...)
I have a lot to catch up, but the most of my prev. post is still standing...
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October 02, 2014, 02:05:06 PMReply #118

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #118 on: October 02, 2014, 02:05:06 PM »
I love playing at the Pentastar Alignment!  They have a good starting position in FTGU, and the Victory-Venator combination is awesome for that price range.  The only thing I don't like with them are the Dark Jedi.  They're not very useful in ground battle, but have ridiculously high auto-resolve power. 

October 02, 2014, 03:59:10 PMReply #119

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Re: Pentastar Alignment Megathread
« Reply #119 on: October 02, 2014, 03:59:10 PM »
I love playing at the Pentastar Alignment!  They have a good starting position in FTGU, and the Victory-Venator combination is awesome for that price range.  The only thing I don't like with them are the Dark Jedi.  They're not very useful in ground battle, but have ridiculously high auto-resolve power.

They're great for grabbing reinforcement points with their speed.
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