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July 05, 2013, 01:42:55 PM

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Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« on: July 05, 2013, 01:42:55 PM »
Hello, everyone! I grabbed this mod a couple of weeks ago and love it. I couldn't help but notice something, however. Luke gets to fly again, which is nice, but his Lucky Shot seems busted. Is it at all possible to get this to work again, and if so, could it be done for 2.1? Thanks!
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July 05, 2013, 01:50:10 PMReply #1

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 01:50:10 PM »
Hello, everyone! I grabbed this mod a couple of weeks ago and love it. I couldn't help but notice something, however. Luke gets to fly again, which is nice, but his Lucky Shot seems busted. Is it at all possible to get this to work again, and if so, could it be done for 2.1? Thanks!
His Lucky Shot didnt work in vanilla FoC either, so there's that.
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July 05, 2013, 04:32:56 PMReply #2

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 04:32:56 PM »
and technically he only got one lucky shot against the DSI
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July 07, 2013, 02:28:23 PMReply #3

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 02:28:23 PM »
and technically he only got one lucky shot against the DSI

I'd say the AT-AT was pretty lucky.

July 07, 2013, 06:11:35 PMReply #4

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 06:11:35 PM »
Do you mean his killing it or his not shattering his legs when he fell from it?
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July 07, 2013, 06:13:47 PMReply #5

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 06:13:47 PM »
Is the Death Star Shot really lucky?
It seemed more of a Force assisted shot if anything.

July 07, 2013, 08:36:38 PMReply #6

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 08:36:38 PM »
I'd change it then, instead of calling it Lucky Shot, it should be Force Shot or something similar =P
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July 08, 2013, 01:32:05 AMReply #7

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 01:32:05 AM »
How about Terrorist murderer shot? Since it killed so many innocent Imperials.
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July 08, 2013, 02:40:22 AMReply #8

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 02:40:22 AM »
Because it's not like they had anything to do with blowing up an entire planet full of innocent people.


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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 04:53:13 PM »
They posted the plans for the demolition of that planning many months in advance.  It's not THEIR fault that the inhabitants never bothered to go to their nearby galacting planning office and hunted through the basement file cabinets where there is no light to find them!!
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 08:42:11 PM »
Because it's not like they had anything to do with blowing up an entire planet full of innocent people.

It's not that I don't like blowing up things (wich I do) but to big problems, big solutions, in this case the death star. So blowing an entire planet with "innocent" people was part of the big solution for the empire against the rebels
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 11:26:42 PM »
Because it's not like they had anything to do with blowing up an entire planet full of innocent people.

Okay lets be perfectly clear. Alderaan was a major supporter of the Rebellion, they gave comfort, food, fuel and shelter to them as often as the could. They were doing more than their share of helping hurt the Empire. It was like the US in WWI and WWII, neutral, yeah right. We funded EVERY single person who wanted to stop the Central Powers and later the Fascists and Japanese(granted in WWII it was definitely the right thing to do). It really should not have come as a surprise the Empire justly retaliated on that world. Also to be truly fair Grand Moff Tarkin and the Gunners killed that world. The rest of the DS I's garrison were innocent bystanders...
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 11:56:14 PM »
It really should not have come as a surprise the Empire justly retaliated on that world. Also to be truly fair Grand Moff Tarkin and the Gunners killed that world. The rest of the DS I's garrison were innocent bystanders...

That is one hell of a retaliation haha. Though one would think being assigned to a giant planet destroying ball, that they would be ok with said ball destroying planets.
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2013, 01:15:17 PM »
Okay lets be perfectly clear. Alderaan was a major supporter of the Rebellion, they gave comfort, food, fuel and shelter to them as often as the could. They were doing more than their share of helping hurt the Empire. It was like the US in WWI and WWII, neutral, yeah right. We funded EVERY single person who wanted to stop the Central Powers and later the Fascists and Japanese(granted in WWII it was definitely the right thing to do). It really should not have come as a surprise the Empire justly retaliated on that world. Also to be truly fair Grand Moff Tarkin and the Gunners killed that world. The rest of the DS I's garrison were innocent bystanders...
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2013, 01:37:32 PM »
Okay lets be perfectly clear. Alderaan was a major supporter of the Rebellion, they gave comfort, food, fuel and shelter to them as often as the could. They were doing more than their share of helping hurt the Empire. It was like the US in WWI and WWII, neutral, yeah right. We funded EVERY single person who wanted to stop the Central Powers and later the Fascists and Japanese(granted in WWII it was definitely the right thing to do). It really should not have come as a surprise the Empire justly retaliated on that world. Also to be truly fair Grand Moff Tarkin and the Gunners killed that world. The rest of the DS I's garrison were innocent bystanders...

Yeah I doubt 2 billion people were hiding rebels in their basements.  You're talking about leadership or former military (they were DEMILITARIZED) aiding the rebels.  Even the highest amount is a handful of people, not a whole planet.  That is one hell of a collateral damage to try to justify (killing 1.999 billion to get 1 million sympathizers.)  As for the DS, each and every one of those soldiers contributed to the inner workings of that station, and it's operation.  It was their job.  It wouldn't make any difference if the aren't the one to give the order or flip the switch to blow up a planet full of babies and space woodland creatures.  That's why blowing up a ship isn't considered thousands of counts of murder and dozens counts of self defense for all the gun battery gunners. 

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2013, 05:29:15 PM »
Yeah I doubt 2 billion people were hiding rebels in their basements.  You're talking about leadership or former military (they were DEMILITARIZED) aiding the rebels.  Even the highest amount is a handful of people, not a whole planet.  That is one hell of a collateral damage to try to justify (killing 1.999 billion to get 1 million sympathizers.)  As for the DS, each and every one of those soldiers contributed to the inner workings of that station, and it's operation.  It was their job.  It wouldn't make any difference if the aren't the one to give the order or flip the switch to blow up a planet full of babies and space woodland creatures.  That's why blowing up a ship isn't considered thousands of counts of murder and dozens counts of self defense for all the gun battery gunners. 
Yeah I doubt 2 billion people were hiding rebels in their basements.  You're talking about leadership or former military (they were DEMILITARIZED) aiding the rebels.  Even the highest amount is a handful of people, not a whole planet.  That is one hell of a collateral damage to try to justify (killing 1.999 billion to get 1 million sympathizers.)  As for the DS, each and every one of those soldiers contributed to the inner workings of that station, and it's operation.  It was their job.  It wouldn't make any difference if the aren't the one to give the order or flip the switch to blow up a planet full of babies and space woodland creatures.  That's why blowing up a ship isn't considered thousands of counts of murder and dozens counts of self defense for all the gun battery gunners. 

Alderaan was one of the three founding worlds of the Rebellion. Its Senator (who speaks for the ENTIRE planet) agreed to help revolt and rabblerouse against the peacekeepers of the galaxy. Sure, all they did was supply money and supplies, but without money and food there would not have been a rebellion. By speaking for the entire planet, ex-Senator Bail Organa turned the whole planet against the Empire. Don't blame the Empire, blame Bail Organa.
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2013, 09:10:12 PM »
Alderaan was one of the three founding worlds of the Rebellion. Its Senator (who speaks for the ENTIRE planet) agreed to help revolt and rabblerouse against the peacekeepers of the galaxy. Sure, all they did was supply money and supplies, but without money and food there would not have been a rebellion. By speaking for the entire planet, ex-Senator Bail Organa turned the whole planet against the Empire. Don't blame the Empire, blame Bail Organa.

And if my memory is rigth, he died along with the planet he represented. That's what happens to traitors
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2013, 12:07:19 AM »
Yeah I doubt 2 billion people were hiding rebels in their basements.  You're talking about leadership or former military (they were DEMILITARIZED) aiding the rebels.  Even the highest amount is a handful of people, not a whole planet.  That is one hell of a collateral damage to try to justify (killing 1.999 billion to get 1 million sympathizers.)  As for the DS, each and every one of those soldiers contributed to the inner workings of that station, and it's operation.  It was their job.  It wouldn't make any difference if the aren't the one to give the order or flip the switch to blow up a planet full of babies and space woodland creatures.  That's why blowing up a ship isn't considered thousands of counts of murder and dozens counts of self defense for all the gun battery gunners. 

Hey you make an omelet gotta break a few eggs. Personally I think there were better targets(Chandrilla and Mon Calamari just to name two) and that the population could have been put to much better use as slave labor for the Imperial War machine. Also it's not as though Alderaan was rendered extinct, good hearted General Derricote had the Alderaan Biotics facility to produce comfort food for orphaned Alderannians and what about all those wonderful resettlement camps? The Empire did it's part to do the right thing and how did the Alderanians respond? Selfish grumbling about a single planet.
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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2013, 04:41:56 AM »
Hey you make an omelet gotta break a few eggs. Personally I think there were better targets(Chandrilla and Mon Calamari just to name two) and that the population could have been put to much better use as slave labor for the Imperial War machine. Also it's not as though Alderaan was rendered extinct, good hearted General Derricote had the Alderaan Biotics facility to produce comfort food for orphaned Alderannians and what about all those wonderful resettlement camps? The Empire did it's part to do the right thing and how did the Alderanians respond? Selfish grumbling about a single planet.
Mon Calamari was on the list of shit to blow up, actually. But the whole Yavin fiasco kind of put that plan to a halt.


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July 11, 2013, 02:58:48 PMReply #19

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Re: Luke and The Lucky Shot That's Not
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2013, 02:58:48 PM »
Don't blame the Empire, blame Bail Organa.

Why not both?  Blame the evil, baby killing monster and the guy who poked it with a stick.

Hey you make an omelet gotta break a few eggs. Personally I think there were better targets(Chandrilla and Mon Calamari just to name two) and that the population could have been put to much better use as slave labor for the Imperial War machine. Also it's not as though Alderaan was rendered extinct, good hearted General Derricote had the Alderaan Biotics facility to produce comfort food for orphaned Alderannians and what about all those wonderful resettlement camps? The Empire did it's part to do the right thing and how did the Alderanians respond? Selfish grumbling about a single planet.

Slavery?  Selfish grumbling for the deaths of billions of non-combatants? I gotta tell you, if your standard for ethical action is "not my problem, I got mine"  you just might be evil.

 

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