Author Topic: Stormtroopers (Read 32600 times)

Tyrant · « **on:** June 12, 2007, 12:15:05 AM »

What's your opinion?

Darth Dino · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2007, 12:43:32 AM »

Some were Recruits and some were clones.

Meyer · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:08:14 AM »

some were recruits some were clones. 501th Legion was made totally by Jango Fett clones and it was pure clone Legion. And then there were other clone-types. But also recruits were taken in.

Slornie · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2007, 03:56:07 AM »

Originally they were all clones (Jango clones, and later a mix from different templates), but after the debacle on Kamino (with the 'rebel' batch of clones) i believe that the Empire will have started to phase out its cloning system. Add to this that the Empire had many training worlds, such as Carida - where people joined up and were trained as stormtroopers. And one of the points of the stormtrooper armour is that the enemy cannot tell how experienced the soldiers within are (ie clones or normal people).

Although as the years progressed the proportion of clones in the army would decrease, as the clones passed there useful fighting age (which is quicker since they have accelerated growth/aging).

Meyer · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2007, 05:11:11 AM »

yes. And if I remember right at the time of 0BBY 501st was the only legion with clones. And only clones were in it. Perhaps all the clones were trained for that legion. And recruits were stationed to all others.

Wal-Mart Shoplifter · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2007, 09:02:27 AM »

My opinion is that maybe 75% remained clones even after. I don't think cloning ever phase out, Mainly you could produce a lot more numbers with fewer amount of credits. I would believe Palpatine's secret cloning exercises prove it never phased out.

Meyer · « **Reply #6 on:** June 12, 2007, 10:38:02 AM »

It wasn't phased out but the number of recruits was added.

Slornie · « **Reply #7 on:** June 12, 2007, 10:47:55 AM »

Quote from: Wal-Mart Shoplifer on June 12, 2007, 09:02:27 AM

My opinion is that maybe 75% remained clones even after. I don't think cloning ever phase out, Mainly you could produce a lot more numbers with fewer amount of credits. I would believe Palpatine's secret cloning exercises prove it never phased out.

but by the later days, their cloning facilties must have closed and been lost - otherwise the cloning facility on Wayland wouldnt have been such an important part of Thrawn's strategy

Kratas · « **Reply #8 on:** June 12, 2007, 12:20:02 PM »

they did use more clones but these ones were made by arcanian micro with a new template although jango fetts template was attempted although many were recruits and all pilots were recruits i think or tie fighters would use hyperdrive engines because clones are dedicated unkike normal people

Wal-Mart Shoplifter · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2007, 12:41:42 PM »

So if they altered Jango genes, it is possible that they slowed the aging process. Seeing that there was no need for a large amount of clones a year like during the clone wars.

Zeron · « **Reply #10 on:** June 12, 2007, 01:24:32 PM »

All recruits. If they had any cloning facilities anywhere near the time of Yavin, then clones would have still been alive in Thrawn's time. NOT TO MENTION, that the public HATED clones after the Clone Wars. AND a few of them rebelled, which would nudge Palpatine to start switching away from clones. Clone's weren't very good peace time soldiers either.

Slornie · « **Reply #11 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:18:20 PM »

so no new clones, but there might be some left over from before the Clone Rebellion

Meyer · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:20:14 PM »

Where did you get the idea that public hated clones. They were used by Palpatine as they were loyal and they were feared. After that Kamino uprising he took samples from new templates and started more cloning facilities, so that as Kamino was not the olny one anymore there would be less risk of another uprising.

Zeron · « **Reply #13 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:23:25 PM »

Think about their reaction to Thrawn's clones. They were all fearing another Clone War. They were willing to do anything to stop them.

Meyer · « **Reply #14 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:25:11 PM »

You have to remember that Thrawn Trilogy was written many years before Clone Wars were seen and read in movies and books. There are few things that don't match up. One being that early clones went mad and had to be eradicated.

Slornie · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:26:08 PM »

i think that there were more clones after the Clone Rebellion on Kamino, created elsewhere using a wider range of templates, but the facilities were much smaller, and they lost the growth enhancement tech, so they grew at normal rate, probably they were destroyed rather than let them fall into Rebel hands when the Empire was in full retreat after Endor, so by the time of Thrawn, there were none left.

Zeron · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:50:19 PM »

Your missing the point. If the Empire had them at all, they would still have been seen and known through Thrawn's time. Thrawn would just have continued it. They didn't have them, so the revival of the clones by Thrawn was something that they hadn't seen since the Republic.

Meyer · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:56:08 PM »

in the new essential chronology it was said that cloning technology was lost after the death of Palpatine in DSII. So there were clones at least in 4 ABY.

Scarecrow63 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:58:11 PM »

just cause they had the technology didnt mean they used them, after that Kamino incident i doubt Palpatine would have liked using clones much

Zeron · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2007, 03:00:59 PM »

He didn't, and mostly because Clones were the Republic's symbol. The Empire tried to eliminate all traces of the Old Republic, and clones would have been included.

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Author Topic: Stormtroopers (Read 32600 times)

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