Author Topic: Stormtroopers (Read 32592 times)

Zeron · « **Reply #60 on:** June 19, 2007, 12:48:02 PM »

The armor was mainly so that the enemy didn't know who they were up against. The best in the Empire, or a new recruit...it was impossible to tell until you were dead anyway.

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But people who got in the Stormtrooper Corps (which was totally different from Imperial Army that did all the policing) had to be completely loyal to emperor to get in

Say's who? Just like any army, all they required was an interest in applying. Any loyalty is instilled in the academy.

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the Stormtroopers were on many occasions described as fanatically loyal to the Emperor - to such an extent that after his death many appeared distracted, and had less concern for their own safety/survival (This is definitely mentioned in X-Wing: Rogue Squadron, by Michael Stackpole).

The Emperor used his vast force powers to instill an unbreakable sense of loyalty into any people within his...rather large reach. Once he died, the majority of them were confused about their goals and loyalty's, and a great many of them died because of it.

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And clones could make cricial decisions if needed. How could they command the GAR with the jedis help if they couldn't?

They didn't. The army was run by recruited officers, and a few ARC troopers..and jedi. The problem with ARC troopers, was that they were eccentric..and considerably less loyal than the normal clone. Mindless loyalty...leads to mindless clones.

Meyer · « **Reply #61 on:** June 19, 2007, 12:58:44 PM »

now that's a stupid assumtion. mindless loyalty doesn't lead to mindless cloness. They were good soldiers. best in the galaxy.

Slornie · « **Reply #62 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:02:06 PM »

depends on your definition of 'best' - because in terms of training, they might be, but the Rebel soldiers had more motivation, and many other factions had strong forces.

Zeron · « **Reply #63 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:02:22 PM »

They were fodder. Comparable to Droids. The only ones worth anything were Commandos and ARCs.

Meyer · « **Reply #64 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:04:49 PM »

then how could the Empire survive over two decades and almost destroy rebellion if even it's best soldiers were merely "cannon fodder"?

Zeron · « **Reply #65 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:11:39 PM »

Quite simply...because their army was composed of human recruits. Not Clones.

Meyer · « **Reply #66 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:18:49 PM »

there were many clones. there would never bee enough HUMAN recruits to control the galaxy.

Zeron · « **Reply #67 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:49:45 PM »

When you have the whole galaxy to recruit from, yes there would. Especially when you consider that you only needed one garrison to keep control on most light planets.

Slornie · « **Reply #68 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:04:00 PM »

if they only needed once garrison to control some planets, why did they need over 1000000 people on the Death Star ?

Zeron · « **Reply #69 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:08:09 PM »

Cause it was the size of a moon, and crewed completely by military personnel? Plus, they couldn't afford to let anyone sneak aboard and sabotage something THAT expensive..eh?

Meyer · « **Reply #70 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:09:31 PM »

althought it is big, death star is no near as big as a planet. they would need million to guard each planet in the Galaxy.

Zeron · « **Reply #71 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:13:27 PM »

Um..no. They had a million cause that's how much crewing it took. You had mechanics, pilots, operators, and various other military personnel. Only a small portion were stormtroopers.

Meyer · « **Reply #72 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:16:18 PM »

but you still can't claim that it only took one garrison to guard a single planet. they would never have enough manpower to stop all rebell attemps.

Kratas · « **Reply #73 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:21:27 PM »

it depends if the planet had a small population or the garrison was accompanied by ....say some light vehicles and possibly a space fleet

Wal-Mart Shoplifter · « **Reply #74 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:23:12 PM »

True add in some Ties and your good.

Zeron · « **Reply #75 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:29:23 PM »

Yeah. A garrison usually consisted of 800 stormtroopers, 30 TIE fighters and 5 TIE bombers, 10 AT-ATs, 10 AT-STs, 40 speeder bikes, 60 landspeeders, and 100 miscellaneous vehicles. (construction, cargo, maintenance, etc.) They also had a heavy armament of Turbolasers, Laser Cannons, and Shields.

Wal-Mart Shoplifter · « **Reply #76 on:** June 19, 2007, 02:53:34 PM »

That's a whole lot a stormtroopers.

Meyer · « **Reply #77 on:** June 19, 2007, 03:07:58 PM »

but not enough to control a planet.

Zeron · « **Reply #78 on:** June 19, 2007, 03:10:02 PM »

It's plenty. Not all planets are under martial law. Rule through fear of force, remember? Who's going to be going rebelling when your planet has enough force to crush any city on the planet to pulp?

Corey · « **Reply #79 on:** June 19, 2007, 03:35:46 PM »

Keeping in mind that many of the planets actually wanted to be controlled by the Empire, especially in the core worlds with human population, i'd imagine they'd be quite happy. The Rebellion didn't often venture very far coreward. Also consider the fact that not every planet was heavily populated, and some weren't even that large to begin with. Then there's also the sector fleets overhead that could easily 'take care' of any problem that occured in their area.

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Were all Stormtroopers recruits, or were there clones within the ranks as well?

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