Ships for the Warlords

[GEARREX_11]

I am a huge starship fan so I wanted to wrack brain for some ship suggestions for the warlords. Here is the list I have compiled so far feel free to add some more if you want.

Torpedo sphere
a ship inspired by the Deathstar. it is well armed with tons of proton torpedo tubes and atleast 10 heavy turbolaser batteries. its size is a maximum of 3km as far as I can estimate, but the more common ones are 1.9km

Eye Of Palpatine
a monstrous 19km dreadnaught built into a asteroid's shell to disguise it. It is extremely well armed and can carry huge amounts of fighters.

Vengeance class Star dreadnaught
a massive 19km long ship that is the production variant of Jerec's flagship Vengeance. its capabilities are similar to the Executor class.

Assertor class Star dreadnaught
a massive 15km long starship that is covered in guns and could possibly go toe to toe with an Executor class.

Mandator 3 class Star dreadnaught
a 12km long dreadnaught that is capable of engaging a Executor class to a standstill. Even though no pictures of this ship exist since all of the Empire of the Hand ships are made up I will keep my fingers crossed.

Super Class Star Destroyer
a 8km long version of the Executor class that is still well armed, but is more affordable for the resource strapped warlords.

Bakura class star destroyer
a 850m long star destroyer that uses the reactor of the ISD making it far stronger than any other ship of a similar size. It is well armed and features anti fighter laser cannons mixed in with its turbolasers and ion cannons.

Procurator class star destroyer
a 1200m long version of the ISD that has fewer heavy guns, but mounts them all in the centerline giving them a much better firing arc.

Recusent class light destroyer
a well armed but weakly armored 1187m long ship. It served extensively in the clone wars and saw much service afterwords as well in various groups hands.

Namana class light cruiser
a well rounded 400m long light cruiser made for the bakurans

Pursuit class light cruiser
a 500m long crusier that is armed to the teeth and carries a good fighter complement to boot.

Star Galleon class frigate
a somewhat slow but heavily armed 300m long transport/frigate

Shree class cruiser
a well armed 900m ship that carries a large fighter complement. Even though it is a Ssi-Ruuvi ship many were captured after the failed bakuran invasion so it is entirely possible the warlords could have purchased some of these exotic ships to bolster their fleets.

Victory 2 class frigate
a medium sized cruiser that had a long service life from the blockade of Yavin 4 to the Vong war.

Imperial 2 class frigate
a 400 meter long cruiser that is decently armed and carries a decent fighter complement.

Interceptor frigate
a roughly 200 meter long frigate that is well armed and can dominate most corvettes and other light vessels, but struggles against larger ships.

Assasin class Corvette
a drastically uparmed and uparmored version of the classic Correlian Corvette.

Tartan class Corvette
a potent anti fighter corvette that can boost it weapons to destroy whole swarms of fighters or challenge larger ships, but at the expense of shields.

TIE Avenger
A really powerful TIE variant. Unlike most versions this one comes with shields and a hyerdrive. Its well armed with 4 laser cannons and a launcher that can fire many types of warheads. In addition it can also mount a small tractor beam projector.

TIE Phantom
A stealthy TIE variant that mounts a cloaking generator allowing it to mount surprise attacks or flee undetected. It mounts a shield generator and a hyperdrive. it is armed with 5 laser cannons.

let me know what you think of these ships and feel free to drop a few more I didn't get because I love to see new ships .

Missile Boat
a fast Starfighter equipped with shields and a hyperdrive. It is designed to use missiles as its primary armament and as such can pose a threat to even larger capital ships.

[tlmiller]

The Vengeance class dreadnought is already in the game, it is Jere's ship.

I can't speak for the team, but I don't believe they plan on doing any more models for battlecruisers/dreadnoughts that only a few were ever produced (Assertor, Mandator III).  The Torpedoe sphere was designed for planetary siege, not ship to ship combat (although yes it was capable of it, it's not what it was designed for).  You confused the Procurator and Procursator.  The Procursator is the 1200 km long hangerless destroyer with the batteries placed so that it actually does focus on firing to the front.  The Procurator is an ancient Battlecruiser design that's 2.5 km long.  There's a slim chance you'll see the Procursator since the team already made a model for Ascendency.  No chance for the Procurator.  They were ancient by the time of the clone wars, although they did get regular updates to keep them relevant, I believe they stopped getting the updates with the design of the Praetor (which was, in itself, phased out for the Praetor-II that is in the game).  The Namana and Bakura are BARELY existing in the timeframe of the mod, and would be an era-5 unit only, which means it's useless to give them to the Warlords.  Plus they only assisted the galaxy at large in a couple confrontations, they were never sold outside Bakura.  Star Galleon, while armed, was a troop transport.

That's what I can see straight off.

[Eclipse]

Besides other than delvarus (I think) most of those huge ships couldn't be affored for any warlord at all, so I'd say that your first 6 ships would be out of consideration, as for timeline I'm not very good with it.

Also victory II, same with the missile boat I think is already in game and adding the tartan cruiser would be the same as the lancer frigate, it would just occupy a build place button so doubt the team would even consider re-adding it since it was in the original game

[GEARREX_11]

Blitzer Harsk (hope I spelled that right) made 2 super star destroyers of his own Dominion and Megador. and he is one of the smaller warlord factions that is not included here so its not out of the realm of possibility that they could get some of the dreadnaughts. plus most of them already had dreadnaughts Palpatine used them during operation shadow hand in which many were destroyed. Thanks for catching my misspelling on the procursator BTW As for the Eye of Palpatine it would actually be a unique vessel as only one was made so it could be a one off ship that you can get as the Imperial remnant if you capture a particular planet much similar to how Daala gets the Knight Hammer.

[GEARREX_11]

I think the Torpedo Sphere would be a neat addition to the though I get what you mean about it not being intended for ship vs ship combat. I think though it was almost never used to just attack planets. One minor warlord whos name escapes me used one as his flagship and decimated all his rivals. I am just choosing to remain hopeful though I would understand why it would not be added.

[Lord Xizer]

Blitzer Harsk (hope I spelled that right) made 2 super star destroyers of his own Dominion and Megador. and he is one of the smaller warlord factions that is not included here so its not out of the realm of possibility that they could get some of the dreadnaughts. plus most of them already had dreadnaughts Palpatine used them during operation shadow hand in which many were destroyed. Thanks for catching my misspelling on the procursator BTW As for the Eye of Palpatine it would actually be a unique vessel as only one was made so it could be a one off ship that you can get as the Imperial remnant if you capture a particular planet much similar to how Daala gets the Knight Hammer.

Harrsk did not build Megador and Dominion, he captured them and didn't even have the manpower to crew them.
Eye of Palpatine would just be a larger Torpedo sphere and as stated the spheres were not used against ships(save once at the Battle of Tralus)
The Asserter and Mandator III were extremely limited in production as was tge Vengeance class. All three of those classes only appeared right before Shadow Hand and most destroyed each other in the Imperial Mutiny.

[tlmiller]

I think the Torpedo Sphere would be a neat addition to the though I get what you mean about it not being intended for ship vs ship combat. I think though it was almost never used to just attack planets. One minor warlord whos name escapes me used one as his flagship and decimated all his rivals. I am just choosing to remain hopeful though I would understand why it would not be added.

That would be Grand Admiral Pitta, who's torpedo sphere was destroyed (along with Pitta) in the aforementioned battle of Tralus by Admiral Grunger ramming it with the Executor-class Agressor.

[GEARREX_11]

The Eye of Palpatine was built expressly as a dreadnaught only thing it has in common with torpedo spheres is it sphere shape. the Eye would make a neat addition to the era 5 IR as a unique ship and you would aquire it in a similar way to the Knight Hammer capture a particular planet and the Eye is added to your fleet. This would be in line with the time period the Eye was reactivated in to try and add it to the IR navy but was destroyed en rout to its destination to link up with the IR fleet.

[Lord Xizer]

That would be Grand Admiral Pitta, who's torpedo sphere was destroyed (along with Pitta) in the aforementioned battle of Tralus by Admiral Grunger ramming it with the Executor-class Agressor.

I actually wrote out a probable way the battle played out from Grunger and Pitta's POV

http://xizerthegrey.deviantart.com/art/Battle-of-Tralus-Grunger-vs-Pitta-572685545

[tlmiller]

I like to call Grunger Grand Admiral Worthless.  He did nothing of note that was ever in the books, and his only moment of note is when he was nearly destroyed by a far inferior ship, until, in an infantile tantrum, decided to kill himself and all his men just to deny someone else a victory.  He's the kind of useless leader that would lose his executor class in a battle against a single Invincible-class dreadnaught.  He just strikes me as being a completely hopeless, pitiful carbon wastage.

[Lord Xizer]

I like to call Grunger Grand Admiral Worthless.  He did nothing of note that was ever in the books, and his only moment of note is when he was nearly destroyed by a far inferior ship, until, in an infantile tantrum, decided to kill himself and all his men just to deny someone else a victory.  He's the kind of useless leader that would lose his executor class in a battle against a single Invincible-class dreadnaught.  He just strikes me as being a completely hopeless, pitiful carbon wastage.

Actually Grunger was one of the top Grand Admirals. He had been a fleet commander all through the Clone Wars and all the Expansion campaigns of the Empire undefeated. It even says in the Essential Guide to Warfare he was one of four appointments to Grand Admiral that made the most sense. Also it wasn't just to Pitta's Torp shere he faced at Tralus, it was the entire Corellian sector fleet that had sided with Pitta. According to the accounts they wiped each other out. His decision to ram Pitta was also based on not just wounded pride. In losing so much of his fleet Grunger lost his power base compketely, one of the larger Warlords would have killed him easily at that point. He was doomed by battles end so he decided to take the wrecker of his ambitions with him to Hell. True he sacrificed his men, which I find deplorable but I admire his willingness to die to take his enemy with him.

[kucsidave]

nice ship ideas, just sadly none of them would make much sense(including the typo) except the Vengeance which is already in game as Jerec's flagship, but it would make sense to keep that as unique...

[Lord Xizer]

nice ship ideas, just sadly none of them would make much sense(including the typo) except the Vengeance which is already in game as Jerec's flagship, but it would make sense to keep that as unique...

Nice banner pic you got there Kucsidave. Very team Warlord of you.

[kucsidave]

Nice banner pic you got there Kucsidave. Very team Warlord of you.

Of course. When I saw the Zsinj profile I couldn't help myself
#TeamWarlord

[tlmiller]

Actually Grunger was one of the top Grand Admirals. He had been a fleet commander all through the Clone Wars and all the Expansion campaigns of the Empire undefeated. It even says in the Essential Guide to Warfare he was one of four appointments to Grand Admiral that made the most sense. Also it wasn't just to Pitta's Torp shere he faced at Tralus, it was the entire Corellian sector fleet that had sided with Pitta. According to the accounts they wiped each other out. His decision to ram Pitta was also based on not just wounded pride. In losing so much of his fleet Grunger lost his power base compketely, one of the larger Warlords would have killed him easily at that point. He was doomed by battles end so he decided to take the wrecker of his ambitions with him to Hell. True he sacrificed his men, which I find deplorable but I admire his willingness to die to take his enemy with him.

Never heard about his past success.  Still think he's an infantile, immature carbon wastage though.

[Corey]

Not going to address everything, but:

Super Class Star Destroyer
a 8km long version of the Executor class that is still well armed, but is more affordable for the resource strapped warlords.

This isn't a real ship. It's a result of the confusion people had before the official length of the Executor was determined, and it's been since confirmed that "super class star Destroyer" is just an unofficial term for the Executor. The official retcon is that it was an Imperial attempt to trick Rebel Intelligence by understating what the Executor actually was.

Procurator class star destroyer
a 1200m long version of the ISD that has fewer heavy guns, but mounts them all in the centerline giving them a much better firing arc.

There's a slim chance you'll see the Procursator since the team already made a model for Ascendency.  No chance for the Procurator.

Correct on the Procurator, the slim part of the Procursator is incorrect. It will be in 2.2.

Shree/Namana/Bakura.

For the Shree, only one was captured at Bakura (Shriwirr/Sibwarra) and it stayed with the NR. They used it to invade the already-invaded Ssi-Ruuvi territory, and it was never heard from again.  No chance the Warlords ever got them, or that the NR even made major use of them. As for the two Bakuran ships, they were only used by and at the discretion of Bakura, with only three ever really going outside of Bakura to do anything. Not to mention that their designs are from Cracken's Threat Dossier, so they're unique combination of terrible and not really canon which only that book has managed to achieve.

TIE Phantom
A stealthy TIE variant that mounts a cloaking generator allowing it to mount surprise attacks or flee undetected. It mounts a shield generator and a hyperdrive. it is armed with 5 laser cannons.

These stopped being a thing even before Endor. They couldn't be made anymore.